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I wouldn't be averse to providing calls sometime, except I don't know if that would be the place because I trade ES. If you would like to see some turns pointed out during the action, sometimes workwithus provides them in his thread. Don't want to clutter up game's thread, or get too focused...

Note Bar 12 lands between P2 and T2P but does not trigger Ba. This is because of n+1 test I believe.

The thread I created with jack details a lot of this. The premise is that the system of market operation can be fully known. A brief synopsis of the theory is written about on the first page. In short, all market variables are granular, and one determines the other. All the work in...

Get back to what topic? You didn't even ask a question. Telling someone they're wrong or lying just because you've decided you aren't capable or willing learn how to understand what 'chop' is, or even how to recognize it isn't going to get you anywhere. Perhaps you didn't get a response...

I sketched in my trades during the sequence in question on the ES. I would say that your observation is accurate in that yours decisions are more discretionary. I believe after a certain point the mind stores information about the market operation into the subconscious if it's learning process...

By clean move, I was referring to the continuous long sentiment from the open to 11 AM. All short legs were quick FBO's. Price was pretty much only heading in one direction, up. At least, on the 5m fractal that I posted. You seem to be trading on the sub-fractal of the 5m, which I think...

Please don't take this the wrong way, but sometimes your charts are just painful to look at. I remember when mine looked the same and I would feel dubious at how I could have butchered such clean runs of price in a single direction. I would like to see you succeed and improve. Building...

Very good work, I think you've correctly learned how to handle multiple EE's. For now, we can continue to use BO T1 after P2 if a fan occurs, I suppose. It's too bad we haven't gotten any good examples of F and K Bands lately, I am looking forward to reviewing them when we have a good example.

Unfortunately I don't know the answer to either of these. It would be nice to get an updated status of BO T1 since they seem to be triggering more now than before, unless there is just something we've been missing the whole time. In regards to multiple EE's on a non-OB, the only thing I've...

INT KILLS effect nulls the potential PP2 on Bar 1, I believe.

Excellent clarification. I was not able to see the change in his rtl fanning from 11-7 forward which led to confusion. I think you are correct and we can never have a BO T1 on an internal price case no matter what combinations of price cases and volume occur.

Good research. I believe we can be confident that all internals are fanned when they are first encountered when an rtl can be drawn. It is hard for me to find examples of a time when the rtl is fanned for internal or lateral, then translation occurs, THEN after the translation we have...

This is what I am unsure about. My instinct is to fan these. Currently I have been fanning the first internal or lateral, but if translation occurs afterwards, than even on a second set of internals I do not fan. However, I have just been going off my best guess in accordance with instances I...

Yes, it's difficult because it would make sense at times to fan. I instinctively want to when we have EE, Translation, Internal. But it doesn't feel right when we have EE, Internal, Translation, Internal. See Bar 77 in your example. An FTP isn't fanned and the rtl is still active...

If you're talking about Bar 71 he might not have bothered because PP1 occurred. I believe once a translating bar occurs when the rtl is in, it's locked in and isn't fanned any further. workwithus seems to fan his rtls on internals occurring after translation at times. Not sure which is correct.

So, from the chart of [1-22] that you posted of the whole day, do you believe that rtl is drawn from the EE bar to the next bar itself, or the next significant bar. I am aware that it is fanned over internal price cases even when they are tested for a volume element, but I have been unable to...

Long during 9:55 Bar occurred about two minutes in. Was due to unsustainable sub-fractal trend channel like discussed with yesterday's short on Bar 7 (rtl BO). Not quite the same as momentum exhaustion, which occurs before the rtl BO. 12:20 EST short was either a hold through the lateral...

Short #2 was great. Our orders probably went in within 10 seconds of each other, although I was on ES. --- Thought for the Day: [Disclaimer]: I have no interest in spawning a debate with anyone. If you don't agree with this, simply discard it and move on. I've seen this make some...

Nice. I'm glad we are able to come to a point of closure. Thank you for your participation. I think you may have a slight misunderstanding of what I was trying to say, or perhaps you were making generalizations about other traders, such a referencing boxes, but I think we did a good job of...

I am glad to see that you're interested in exchanging knowledge and learning together. Excellent idea bringing in a chart so we can discuss the details of our ideas. We may in fact have been speaking about different occurrences before. It was difficult for me to read the link you sent, so...