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I guess I just don't get where you're coming from. You are saying that it is illogical for a stock to go up when they report terrible earnings. You then say that it is a game of incomplete information. So if the information is incomplete or not accurate as you are implying, then why use that...

Now how do you know whether or not it is priced into the market? If you think you know, then you should think you know what the prices of financial stocks should be. I wish I could predict what the market does and does not know! But seriously, I have no idea whether or not the stocks go up or...

Who cares why they are up, the main thing is that they are going up.

What is so extraordinary about the government and wall street antics today? Has nothing like now never happened before? What about JPMorgan bailing out the entire market in the early 20th century? Would that be considered extraordinary and propping up the market? What about the financial...

Maybe your thinking about all signs pointing to it going down is illogical? What are all these signs that point that the market should go down? What are the signs that the market should go up? Just trying to find out why you are thinking what you are.

Which lows? Todays low, March low, 52 week low, All time low?

I agree with this statement. Just no way to tell which way it will go. It's below it's 200 day ma and near 52 week lows. Can it jump up to test the 200 day, maybe, but it may also tank. I just don't see any kind of favorable risk/reward ratio trading this.

Who cares, the stock is trading at 52 week highs currently! Looks like a sign of strength to me.

What is so illogical about the market? It goes up and it goes down.

So how did the "market" get it wrong in this massive risk crisis that got us to the point we are at today? How did the "market" over leverage based on flawed risk formulas? How did the "market" even come up with a risk formula. I thought the market was just an exchange to buy and sell. On...

This is a trading forum and in your original post you talk about "global economic implosion" and "worst recession since 1933". Then you show charts of companies in the steel industry and ask whether the markets have it wrong. Then you talk about why this doesn't fit in with your perception of...

Ok, I quoted and re-read again. What did I say that doesn't show that I comprehend what you wrote. I said "What doesn't fit with what?". That is because you say "This doesn't fit with cyclical stocks hitting new highs like clockwork.". You are assuming the stock market (specifically cyclical...

What doesn't fit with what? Do you have a textbook explaining to you exactly what should happen in each type of market? Let me guess, it has each stock in it and where they will be in 5, 10 and 20 years out. Can I get a copy? And how does the bond market tell the stock market it is wrong or...

Well, if you say it's going to collapse then, Oh well! Unless all your money is in euros or whatever currency holds up, it won't matter either way now will it? The public will be broke and so will you because the US is going to collapse. I just don't see your point in caring whether the...

If you're a trader, why do you care about manipulation and if the markets are being propped up?

So you didn't buy? But you were so bullish in your first post saying how GOOG was going to surge! Anyway, if all the other stocks you were talking about are doing better, why do you want to buy the loser of the bunch? If I had to draft a QB for my pro football team, it wouldn't be Ryan Leaf.

Well, if that's the case, why look at the fundamentals? Why not just trade price? It's the only thing you can truly trust.

The equity market NEVER has it wrong, it's only YOU that has it either right or wrong.