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Well, amoeba are alive . Do they have consciousness? You need a consciousness, to be alive? Is that what your implying?It seems to be.

"Aging is for that which is born, which will die.....age is for the changing, not the changeless....." Atomic energy has a lifespan. It has "half lives" and stuff. Are you suggesting, it isnt born-or that its not alive?

Surf, you do have a point, coming back to the dogmatism of science. It doesnt change that quickly, some chap by the name of copernicus, and a few others ran into obstacles of various sorts. But you cannot ignore, the obstructionism, the blinkered, blindfolded bastardry of religion has...

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I thought that was engineering. Could it be, the answer to everything, is not intelligent design-but intelligent ENGINEERING?? I think so. Sorry, just had to push it to 400!! Youve read all of darwins work now, Z? :cool:

Math. i hate math. Im not good at anything, so thanx for the topic. Bah Humbug. Did i mention, i hate math? Hate, puke, vomit......math...:mad:

Z, did you say, BOTH theories? All two of them? "To me the reaction from the so called "scientific" community is absurd. We see folks here who are chomping at the bit to tell everyone why ID is not valid. So why not expose children to both theories, let the proponents speak on...

"The scientific method isn't invalid, it just needs to be tweaked." Optimising methodology? In what feild could such a thing possibly be condoned?? Blasphemy!!! Hey, why didnt someone mention johnnyk could play guitar? (oh, i remember now) Z loses. :D

"Complexity of theory is not a necessary indicator of a truth, quite the reverse is often, as greater complexity often takes us farther and farther away from axiomatic thinking." Just thought i'd share a ZZZZ goodyism. Blast, it was just starting to get fun-Im certain, ZZ is feverishly...

That sounds fair, though i doubt for a second z ever examined rm's arguements, beyond the sufist level. Or anyone elses. Look, i got nothing better to do than post junk in chit chat, particularly over xmas and stuff. I read darwin, i read everything, and you know what? Dont mean shite what...

You are suggesting Z is depressed , and posting for the heck of it, to releive some addiction or disorder, johnyK? I feel ive discovered the secret, the answer to Zs obfuscation. He got whacked on some serious gear at some point, read a book on sufism, and just aint been the same since...

Oh, EXCEPT ENGLISH.

Oh, i forgot. It never entered my mind, that z hadnt actually read all of darwins work, not just origin of species, which btw left lots of room for ID, quantum physics, common sense and the like. The origin of species is not darwins most important or relevant work, in terms of evolution...

Hang on, "translations, well there you go" Are you suggesting, no interpretation of any foreign language text(much less ancient language text) is in fact VALID??!!!!! Omg, new testament, all religious texts, having been altered overwhelmingly by nasty, nasty and malevolent monks and...

Naturally, you speak and understand hebrew , farsi, ancient loatian, tibetan dialects, aramaic, Mandarin in ancient and modern forms, gaelic- irish and scottish dialects, ancient flemish, AND naturally LATIN. I never claimed to be an intellectual, a theoligan, a physicist,but im an...

Oh, ive read all the religious texts. But only the 2-3 ENGLISH versions available, transcribed by presumably trustworthy religious types. Is there an interpreter for "Z" speak on babelfish? Must look into that.

Shout down what? What am i against? Padding what numbers? Did i mention, i was taught ID as an alternative theorum at school? It takes like, 5 minutes, there isnt that much to it, when presented in the context of chemistry and quantum physics. Answer the question, have you read darwins...

Oh, its MACRO -EVOLUTION thats in trouble. Well, why didnt you say so? Ive read all of darwins work, and your postulations as to his theory are little light on. Darwins overall theory makes little sense, without his other more important works. You have actually read all of darwins work...

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