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    80% of funds underperform the market?

    I'm done here at ET. The conversation, was about one thing, and to use data to prove a point, I always get drug into "How did you do that" "Is it real"? (it is) "Shuttup you have no broker statements" (I provide them) "How did you do that?" (Pfft, I did the free thing for years with the 80%...
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    Fresh Look at the Prop Field through Experienced Lens ...

    Actually, I do provide both audited statements, as well as broker statements. But I'm done here at ET http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?p=3983687#post3983687 That thread explains it all. Also why I'm shutting down the teaching site
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    Fresh Look at the Prop Field through Experienced Lens ...

    My point wasn't my performance. There are guys much more talented than me. The point of the thread was looking at the prop field, and getting used to it, and being brand new to it.
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    Fresh Look at the Prop Field through Experienced Lens ...

    ^ : why retail is retail : Yes. Because we all know that's what the S&P does every year. Funny how you are leaving out the chart of since inception. Or the 2014 numbers. Funny how you cherry-picked one year. Because dear god, no one who manages money long-term ever has just one flat year...
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    80% of funds underperform the market?

    Excellent points (Actually, that was last week I think, or a week and half ago), exact numbers today, after this last week, is ... In my long only book, longer term stuff, I'm over the market by only 91 BPS this year with a Sharpe of 2.44. In the short-term trading, I'm over the market by...
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    80% of funds underperform the market?

    Then it proves my point. LESS VOLATILITY IS BETTER DECISION MAKING Which what I've said. From the first post. Which leads to the next point that just blows my mind. That right there. Why is everyone so *(&#*& obsessed with "beating the market"? Seriously. It's like one of the worst...
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    80% of funds underperform the market?

    Ok, then tell me it's how it's total bull****, rather than simply throw up an article and using foul language. You argue logical points with me rather than trying to call my logic bull**** . Do you even have the ability to formulate a thesis, logical points, and discuss those points one by...
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    80% of funds underperform the market?

    Woah woah woah woah woah. The OP meant a mutual fund? In that case? Yeah, I'm an idiot. Seriously ... I have absolutely no problem with saying I spoke completely out of turn and leave this post up then. It's just in my world, a mutual fund just is never talked about anymore. The circles I...
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    80% of funds underperform the market?

    That's another part of the problem, and how that portfolio is put together is not really what I was discussing. I talk about risk, reducing volatility in a portfolio to save mental capital. The point being, money managers are worth their weight in Gold. Because they save the mental capital of...
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    80% of funds underperform the market?

    Shwish ... Right over everyone's heads ...
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    Fresh Look at the Prop Field through Experienced Lens ...

    Yeah ... that's the conclusion I'm coming to. Just talking to a few firms already. But I'm coming to the same conclusion. It's that, and Covestor that I'll probably be hooking up with. I do have access already to margin. I had just figured, hey, if I can trade larger capital, and it's no...
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    Fresh Look at the Prop Field through Experienced Lens ...

    Let me introduce you to a little tool we have on the internet ... http://google.com And the name ... And the 2014 numbers? Are now even better. I'm now running Sharpe 3.19's on a weekly basis on the stock account and have to switch to using Sortino due to upside volatility on the longer...
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    Fresh Look at the Prop Field through Experienced Lens ...

    Funny you say that, I was going for a run yesterday, and thinking that very same thing ...
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    Would you like to sell your trading blog or site?

    Clint ... That was simply ... Awesome. (They've even jumped the shark more than usual as of late. It's a riot reading their bull****)
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    How do YOU come up with trading ideas?

    I bull**** around until something pops out at me
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    Trading with tk

    Yeah, I remember TK. We hooked up before IT went all ... austerity-weird But TK seemed to be a really good guy.
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    Silver . How low can it go?

    I don't know about bleak. Most of my career, Silver rarely got above $7. It's had a nice run, but commodities usually have a super-run from time to time. Heck, this run in Silver was nothing compared to Sugar back in the 70's / 80's
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    How Smart R U?

    +1 and QFT Or that IQ has anything to do with trading. People trying to out-think something as complex as the weather. Good grief. Trading becomes profitable when the trader realizes it's not about being "smart"
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    80% of funds underperform the market?

    Let's put it this way ... So you have the SPY in the following image, and you also have a portfolio. SPY during this time period, returned 58% (sounds pretty nice eh?) ... BUT, you had to withstand 22.8% volatility. In hindsight, everyone can say they will hold out for the 58%...
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    80% of funds underperform the market?

    It's an oft cited statistic. But every single time I see that statistic mentioned, or someone shows a graph, then never filter it through the lens of risk. I respect and like the Financial Times - FT. But they had a video on that, Auethers Note, and I said the same thing there. If you filter...
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