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Both of my brother-in-laws plus many others relatives are SDA ordained ministers. Turok ____________________________________________ Gee, who can blame you for your aversion to Christianity. :D :D :D Please take this as feeble attempt at humor.

____________________________________________ Integrity in this instance is a very relative issue.

___________________________________________ I think I am hearing that you already made your decision. If so then that is fine. So you can now leave the rest of us to face the consequences of our decisions.

______________________________________________ That little thing is part of the consequences. It could well be that He foresees the end of the universe in a ball of fire and the only safe place is under His protection. Who knows. I normally call it fire insurance and its for free if you are...

________________________________________________ I understand where you are coming from but I have a different take on how you will be treated. 1. Christ died for the sins of the world. Period, all of them, mine and yours and Hitlers'. 2. If you commit murder here in this life on this...

But guess what? From my perspective, the theists do the exact same thing. Axeman _________________________________________ You mean all theists do in every post they make like some others we know? There is a pattern here of attacks and insults amd name calling over many threads and...

So what part doesnt fit?? How about ALL OF IT In fact... I dont know a SINGLE atheist that REMOTELY supports ANY of the above. Not only that, I actually believe exactly the OPPOSITE and im an atheist. I was quite shocked that darkhorse would make such a blatantly false statement...

ni·hil·ism ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-lzm, n-) n. Philosophy. An extreme form of skepticism that denies all existence. A doctrine holding that all values are baseless and that nothing can be known or communicated. Rejection of all distinctions in moral or religious value and a...

Turok - Good luck and enjoy the game.

I think you are making my point, which is the subject of this thread. Minus the profanity the earliest posts described what you are doing.:)

____________________________________________ Shall we put it in context or just pull out something that we hope makes our point. Was that verse just stated out of a vacuum or in relation to some previous or following discussion? I don't hate my relatives but I love God more. I have been...

The christian bible (the old AND *especially* the new testament) preaches mass brutal murder through word and deed. Christianity intrinsically preaches brutal mass murder by god and underlings and history is rife with examples of it's followers following. Turok...

Intrinsic to the stories and teachings throughout the bible is a revengeful, mass murdering philosophy in the name of the christian god. (yeah, go ahead and say it's not true and make me start trotting out the scripture). Turok ___________________________________________ Isn't this only...

Too often what are called "educated" people are simply people who have been sheltered from reality for years in ivy-covered buildings. Those whose whole careers have been spent in ivy-covered buildings, insulated by tenure, can remain adolescents on into their golden retirement years...

Quote from stu: shit man, do you just sit there all day waiting for me ??? you are one weird dude !! ...but no try again the issues are these.... The Trinity... according to ART here on pg 26... or this ________________________________________________ How do you know he is there?

_______________________________________________ Have to start a new thread!

I thought that the original question in this thread was "what if it is Noah's Ark". That question opens up a whole new dimension to the discussion if it proves to be Noah's Ark. I am not speculating on whether it is or isn't or even what would constitute proof, only " what if it is (actually)...

stu - I must apologize for offending you so severely. I certainly didn't intend to trigger this level of hatred for me so I will aplologize and bow out. Best of luck to you in your endeavors.

From what you say here, there was no need for you to paste in dubious reports apportioning unproven allegation against other people, as you would "focus on guilty individuals... stop the molestation" and "the most effective method should be employed." as you put it. .. stu...

This God stuff is often used to help avoid personal responsibility. So the criminal priests can be diluted into all of humanity by God apologists, and blame is then conveniently apportioned to everyone. One particular group or person commits moral outrage... suddenly everyone is a sinner, we are...