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    Long term value investing

    Toawave, Your efforts to try to pursuade big D to believe the facts will turn out to be a waste of time. Big D is a closed minded short term trader who doesn't understand value investing or fundamental analysis or how and what it means to own stock in a company. Most short term traders don't...
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    Long term value investing

    Heres the problem that I have, you previously said two things that I disagree with. And for the most part these next two quotes are the reason why I responded to you. A lot of what you said I actually agree with. "Since we're mentioning Ben Graham, it should be noted that his definition of...
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    No response from investor relations

    Which stock?
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    Long term value investing

    Right. I see your logic. I understand your mindset know. Your running out of things to say in defense of your lack of knowledge and incorrect theories. Might as well just say I am going against Ben Graham, because he is the father of value and because you cannot think of any other lies or...
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    Options House is now junk!!

    Yeah me too. Damn! I finally found a broker I liked, at least for the fee structure.
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    Long term value investing

    WOW! I didn't think you could sound more stupid. You proved me wrong. 1. "In finance, intrinsic value refers to the value of a security which is intrinsic to or contained in the security itself." A fancy way of saying, a securities TRUE WORTH. " It is ordinarily calculated by summing...
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    Long term value investing

    It always cracks me up when some people on this site, or elsewhere, try to sum up stocks or the stock market in a sentence or two. You get all these clueless traders on this site that think they know something that millions of smart people don't know. They think they are smarter than every other...
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    Hedge my ITM leap position - need help

    Am I the only one who pictures seotrader as a chinese guy?
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    Long term value investing

    Really! So Apple and Berkshire Hathaway are worth zero. OK. Thats what you just said. First of all, Berkshire owns plenty of businesses and stocks that pay dividends to them. So by your ludacris definition of value (dividends and only dividends), Berkshire is at least worth the dividends...
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    Long term value investing

    A value investment is in the eye of the beholder. If you deem Berkshire or AAPL to be trading well below its intrinsic value, then they are value investments. If you Don't think they are trading below their intrinsic value, then they are not. Also, A "classic" definition from investopedia...
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    Long term value investing

    WRONG. Stocks are businesses. Businesses are valuable. They have valuable assets. They have future earnings potential, which in turn makes the company more valuable. Dividends are important, but you can certainly make an investment without the company you are buying paying dividends...
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    fixed income recommendations

    I don't know much about Alcatel, and may be a fine investment, but I can tell you with ABSOLUTE certainty, no corporate bond has zero risk.
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    fixed income recommendations

    I am going to give you some advice that I had to learn the hard way (by losing money). If you want to put some fixed income in your portfolio, the absolutely WORST way to go about doing that is by looking for the juiciest yields. That is a way to get really BURNED. Wanting a big yield is...
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    What goes up in crash, de/inflation, and depression?

    If you are trying to hedge against the end of the world, then forget your portfolio. It will be every man for himself, and stocks will no longer matter. Might I also say that people have been foolishly preparing for an armagedon since the beginning of man, and they will continue long into the...
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    What goes up in crash, de/inflation, and depression?

    LMAO. Thank you What happens if there is a forest fire, or termites. I think I am going to call state farm tomorrow and demand I insure the trees in the back yard.
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    Extra cash, what to do with it????

    Buy an ipod, put it away, and wait until it becomes an antique collectible.
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    What kind of percentage return do you get per day?

    First of all, you need to update your insults. Mooncalf?? What the hell is that. Secondly, Of course I know he will not become a trillionaire and that trading with trillions would be next to impossible. Again I do not know why you didn't catch the sarcasm in my post. I figured, pay off the...
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    What kind of percentage return do you get per day?

    I suppose this was probably directed at me. The fact that you didn't catch my sarcasm doesn't speak to my intelligence level, it speaks to yours ( that means YOU are "fucking stupid" as you so elequently put it). I know nobody will perpetually double their bankroll. I was using obvious (or what...
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    Attn: Atheist...read the last line of the first post...

    your silly sarah. My dad didn't create evolution.
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    What kind of percentage return do you get per day?

    Wow! what a thread. So many contradictions. So many dumb posts. so little time. On the one hand you have index piker, lecturing people on the how you should not use excessive leverage, even though he has said he holds leveraged etfs for long periods of time. He is also "suppossedly" a passive...
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