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A different context? Both appear to be traverses made of 3 tapes, one ends in an FTT and the other doesn't. The first ends with a higher high on decreasing volume and the second "ends" on a lower low with decreasing volume - except it doesn't end. Is it just the difference in volume levels...

I presume you are implying that if there is no change in price then jokari cannot give a change signal so the net result is no change. I am now wondering why the FTT on the attached clip is different.

On the 13:05 bar, I don't know what jokari says because price has not moved up or down relative to the close of the previous bar. :( After a dom short traverse and a non dom long traverse I would expect another dom short traverse.

I see that price failed to reach the left trend line. We have a change from price moving down to price moving laterally, which I understood to be change. We have price forming a higher high on the next bar which has been described to me in the past as change. We got rtl bo on decreasing vol...

Spyder, On the 12:20 bar (circled in black) you have annotated the low as pt2 and drawn a line from its low up to the close of the 12:25 bar. With the rtl bo of the preceding blue traverse occurring on decreasing volume at 12:15, I chose to fan the rtl but you did not do this, presumably...

I thought we had p3 on bar 4. This would suggest that p3 was on bar 7, which was not annotated as such.

That is a exactly what I am doing. Having based a decision on what jokari is saying at the close of the current bar, I am expecting price to move in the anticipated direction by close of the next bar. This doesn't allow for an intrabar shift on the next bar and so Jokari seems to fail. I expect...

That's all I am expecting. Unfortunately I don't seem to see what I am expecting....

Context and sequences are an integral part of the analysis. I am just trying to ensure that I am interpreting/using jokari correctly and it would appear that I am not. I would expect jokari to support what I am anticipating in terms of context and sequences.

Definitely not an aha :(

hmmm..... perhaps not

I think this is an "aha"..........

09:45 P up, V down, expect P down on 09:50 bar 09:50 P down as expected. 10:00 P up, V up, expect P up on 10:05 bar 10:05 P up as expected 10:20 P goes down but closes up, V up, expect P up on 10:25 bar 10:25 goes down..... 10:25 P down, V up, expect P down on 10:30 bar 10:30 P up...

That's what I'm trying to do but when an intrabar shift occurs during the current bar the anticipated outcome changes from what I thought would happen when I applied p & v from the previous bar. Perhaps I should not be surprised by that, since an intrabar shift is going to change what the...

Mike, I really appreciate you trying to point me in the right direction. I seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of how the jokari window is meant to be interpreted when it comes to intrabar gaussian shifts, different fractals and whether or not it helps in the case of lateral price...

This is my point. On the bar marked "short" we have P down and V up. I would have expected price on the next bar to continue down. It didn't. It went up.

I must be mistaken but it looks to me like the short (jokari window) shows P down and V up resulting in P up (relative to previous bar close).

Relative to its open, it is moving up. I think my confusion arises from the fact that I saw price moving down (lower low), on decreasing volume, so thought "this is a signal for change". The change did occur, from down to lateral but my error is then to anticipate continuation of the up...

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Am I correct in thinking that we have a jokari window signal for change on bar 6? (lower low, decreasing volume after increasing volume on previous bar)? Thanks