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Have you asked Hammer to link it for you? When we switched to esignal it was not linkable, it took them a week to make it happen.

Was I just being defensive? If so, I am sorry...guess I was reading your posts wrong. I don't necessarily have an axe to grind with that person from VB, I just don't like to see what he "seems" to be doing to Echo. He personally treated one of my good friends very poorly and I just don't think...

Chet..I would be more concerned with the traders that have valid complaints on this thread rather than try to bait me into comparing firms.I am simply basing my opinion on the problems that we had at VB that followed us to Echo after the merger. Problems that seem to still exist without any...

Exactly,no point in rehashing the same old crap. I tried deleting my post, but the time limit had expired. If you are happy, more power to you. I am not going to get into this with you. If you say there is no problem, then there is no problem. You might want to tell the other Echo traders that...

Unfortunately it isn't Rob , Jeff or Gabrielle running the shop anymore is it? That is the reason our whole office left last year and offices are still leaving today. It might tell you something when the co-founder of Van Buren is still trading today, but left Echo a few months back. These are...

I am guessing probably the same thing they were saying more than a year ago......

If you put up your own capital all the pro firms offer good leverage with 100% payout.

dumb ass one lots hitting a shorty to start a freakn short squezze when there is plenty more room for the offer to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The problem with dumping on Echo is that Jeff, Rob, and Gabrielle are really good people who take care of your problems. But then again......I would simply rather NOT have the freakn problems in the first place. They are losing WAY too many traders not to fix their feeds.

esc_trader Very well said. As a "scalper" I trade for very little risk and really don't care about my margin all that much. Sounds silly, but if I trade 200,000 shares a day for only $2,000 gross that is still a pretty decent day with where costs are now a days. Anyone that wants to...

I could find quite a few people that would disagree with that statement....me included. Not as good as it once was, but plenty of value out there.

Guess that is why there are so many profitable prop shops right now. You are making it out to be easier than it is. There are a lot of factors involved that everyone on this board knows about, but I wouldn't want to have the sole financial stake in a prop shop right now. With the rates have...

????? More intelligent, most likely. More successful very doubtful. Listen, I have no problem with people telling him to be cautious. I have no problem with people telling him to realistic. Two things here. 1. I was responding to this comment from Triple J NO!! 4get it bro, unless...

Not trying to be disrespectful, but what you see as reality...I see as negativity. I am sure all these "statistics" are right, but there is NO need to continue to regurgitate them over and over. First hand, seems to be more of a 60/40 success to failure ratio. Just think it depends on how and...

A picture is worth a thousand words. http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20030710/capt.1057843615.georgia_big_kids_mosb109.jpg

Could not agree more. So often I read about ROI on this site. We are traders! Most prop guys put up an initial contribution of around 10K. Well the guy across from me is up over 100K for the year....so does that mean he is up XXXX% this year???? It is all about the paycheck you give...

Scottie Don't listen to the negative idiots on this site. Yes, you can make that kind of money in your first year. I don't have a clue where these people get their statistics from, but first hand I don't see it at all. We have a guy in our office that has been up over 1K net more than 5x this...

Never understood why traders wouldn't. Personally my friends and family are VERY jealous of me. I love what I do, work great hours, answer only to myself and make a good living doing it. Why wouldn't I tell them what I do? If you have people poo pooing your job, time to get new friends.

Once again, I am not saying this to start a flame war. BUT, if the proof is in the pudding in San Diego....then JW Kirklands office wins by a land slide. If you were to go into Echos San Diego office you would see 2-3 people. We had a trader go to both offices and he could not stop laughing...

LOL. Vito.......:D :D No comment. The "echo" methodology, question: Why did the creator of said methodology leave ECHO recently for a competing firm? Not trying to start a flame war, just curious as to the answer of this particular question.