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I understand where you are coming from with software, smart mathmeticians...etc. And coming from the least technical standpoint possible...I must say that I disagree to the extent that I believe successful trading to have a lot to do with your "feel" for the market. I anticipate and trade off...

Husky02...I started with a prop firm April 01 with 50% split on profits. I never really had a losing month trading ....but desk fees etc. never really got me over the hump. It took me a good 9 months to become profitable with take home with some excellent training. I have now been on my own...

Red light ... Green light....you mean this might not work?? I would be very interested to meet the people that watch that infomercial.....and actually think.....hey this looks like a good tool to help me make thousands of dollars a day!!!! That infomercial is almost satirical it is so damn...

Limitdown/ Yes...my cost is significantly lower than that. I have a very competitive deal for trading 3+ million shares a month. As far as break even is concerned....that is not a problem....the better the deal....just adds to my profit.

I apologize for my ignorance here. Are you asking me if I have gotten my cost to less than .0113 a share?

We trade 1k to 5k shares a side. Mainly 3 core listed stocks. 100k to 300k shares a day. In and out...quick scalp.

understand sarcasm much???

daytraderNYC If you were referring to me...thanks already have it. If talking to the Shadow....agree.

Just wanted to agree with Axehawk....if you are a profitable trader with 5 million a month...you should get a much better deal than that.

DONT YOU PEOPLE EVER TRADE??? THERE JUST HAPPENED TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF VOLATILITY TODAY!!!!

lidodido...you really need to chill and just trade.

yes they differ. just give them a call

220-250 for single

no

ECHO

IBM MU TXN TYC, and what ever is in the news 2000 a side

I understand we probably have compltely different styles, but I easily gross well over 1K a day just scalping. On average 1 out 5 days I end up negative NET......but I haven't had a negative gross day in months. It really is not HARD at all.

I am sorry for my ignorance but..... Negative GROSS, are you kidding me? If anyone is actually negative gross and can't get at least 1K gross a day out of this market, you are in the wrong business.

Just to clarify. Van Buren is still in business, but for how long who knows. There is no communication between management and the traders. The traders that left are all profitable and are doing great with ECHO. The environment is like night and day, with ECHO fostering trust and communication...