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    traders who are deeply religious

    You're not disagreeing with me so much as you are disagreeing with an MIT PhD. Your post actually didn't make much sense. You dealt with supposed errors but didn't actually present any alternatives. Please explain how one takes account of "everything anywhere that has ever been."...
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    Yup. On a tangential note, there is a pearl of great price. But, the oyster was considered unclean. A pearl is the only thing of value that is created from an irritation and is removed to become an item of adornment. That's an analogy of the church. I won't say what the...
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    [/b]It was merely a question. I see you applied it to yourself. Don't take these things personally. If you demonstrate sincerity I will be happy to chat with you. You are one of the few who didn't make an effort to be rational and as a result I didn't really give you much credence...
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    Miffed, are we? Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you making a personal attack? And aren't personal attacks the last resort of a person who fails to make a cogent argument? I agree with your comments that make sense, and not the remainder. Adults can handle that. My...
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    [/b]What you’re missing is that Matthew used the meaning the Jews themselves used, and he used it accurately. It’s only now that christianity claims the prophecies refer to Jesus that there is the subsequent assumption they do not or that it is inaccurate. If it is so inaccurate, why...
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    My point, exactly. How can they be impartial to prophecies about him, then? They can't. You're again only citing biased sources with flawed arguments.
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    hcour and bitstream, I agree with you. Denominations have little to do with the God of the Bible. As a result, there is a lot of false humility and aberrant control that damages many of the people who follow blindly.
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    [/b]Ridiculous on the face of it. Are you saying that the jews have no belief in a coming messiah? Any jew worth his salt knows there is a prophesied messiah. If Jesus is this messiah, then it’s obvious the prophecies are about him. Jewish source: Targum Jonathan, on Genesis...
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    Pot, kettle, black.
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    Thank you for taking the time to read it. I bet you will be the only one. Between the 2 accounts, the one you propose is much more difficult to believe. Are you presenting an alternative with the idea that we should reject the evidences we have if there is ANY other possible explanation...
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    The source started out as an opponent to christian belief, as did I. (I was convinced intellectually, and I'm not weak in that regard.) That's one of the problems you'll encounter if you ever get serious in your study: the evidence is overwhelmingly in support of the christian evidences...
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    [/b]All the more reason why we should examine it carefully. I think you would agree that it would need attestation probably better than any other known fact of history, and it turns out that is the case. Article on the resurrection [/b] I can’t discuss the rest of this until you gain a...
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    I can see why you should rest your case; it appears to be very tired. :)
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    traders who are deeply religious

    Try telling that to the IRS when your tax bill is due. There is a reality to which we all adhere. It is the reality that law and science would say is recognized by a reasonable person. Whenever a fact appears that is unpleasant, people like yourself tend to try to blur the lines of this...
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    Et tu. Born twice is dead once. Born once is dead twice.
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    Do you believe you can fly? Would you like to? Patently untrue. People don't necessarily believe what they want. Those who deny reality are aberrations. You'd have me believe that anyone alive at the time of Jesus was aberrant, yet you offer no evidence. You say I don't think, yet...
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    I accept your surrender.
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    Some days it's beans and bacon. Some days ain't nothing shakin'.
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    I'll answer your question if you'll answer mine.
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    No, you are. "No, you are." No, you are. "No, you are." (I could do this for hours. Who wins?)[B] Alternately, the statement stands. You've done nothing to refute it except say, "Un uh." Are you saying that people alive at the same time as Jesus had no idea whether or not he rose from the...
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