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My point is the RISK IS THE SAME. Your point is MEANINGLESS DRIBBLE!!

I give up. This is the last time I will even speak to this as it is absolutely ludicrous. Trader 1. 10,000 in his account buys 1000 shares at 10.00 sets his stop at 8.00 gets stopped out. He now has 8000 in his account trade 2 10,000 in his account sells short 1000 shares at...

Why does the short trader have nothing in his account? You can't short without money in your account.

LMAO again. Please stop, I can't take much more of this. I think your brain is having a reverse compounding effect. Let's put this so even you can understand it. There is a 50 dollar stock. You go long and buy it and set your stop at 48.00 I short the same stock and set my stop at...

The only potential problem with shorting is that your broker can call back the stock and force you to buy it back if he no longer has shares to borrow. This has never happened to me yet though.

Just one other thing I would like to mention to you stocktrader. Forget about the QQQQ, s&p and the dow. Look at the Russell 3000 which includes all of them. When the market goes below its 150 moving average its time to be very cautious. When the market goes below its 200 day average you...

If you wish to be a better than average stock trader you have to cut your losses. You can always get back in at another time. You are hoping for huge moves that are just not going to happen consisistently in this type of market. You are acting like a baby that cannot admit they are wrong...

Yes, I am not worthy. Please teach me your secrets of how to hold onto losing stocks. Show me how to have confidence in a shrinking portfolio, and better yet, show me how to live in denial.

OMG, you were serious. If I make 4 dollars a share on the downside or 4 dollars a share on the upside I still make THE EXACT SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY. Why are you bringing percentages into the picture? If I had 100,000 dollars in my account and made 5000 dollars shorting stocks, or I had...

LMAO, now that was funny unless of course you are serious. Then it would be sad.

Well why don't you explain why there is a difference. If I am going long on a stock and I decide that I am willing to risk 2.00 per share downside before I will get out, how is it different than me going short on a stock risking 2.00 per share upside?

Yes, after hour trading is available to everyone. Just remember there are no market makers after hours and it normally is very low volume. If you buy or sell a stock after hours you may not be buying or selling at a price that reflects the true market value of the stock.

Yes you are wrong. It doesn't matter what happened to anyone. There is no difference in risk. None.

The reason why you don't understand that there is a difference in going short or long is because THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE. People say when you go long the most a stock can decline is by going to zero, but on a short the stock can keep going up for years. Well if you don't have mental stops on...

You're still living in denial. :(

Of course there are things not on the up and up with the stock market, but that does not mean you cannot make money. To be successful you have to figure out how to do that. It cost me a lot of money in time and effort to figure it out. Once you throw away all the indicators, back testing...

Tsk, Tsk. Sounds like a bunch of sour grapes by people who haven't been making any money in the markets. I guess if you cannot make money then it HAS to be rigged? Only 5% of the people can make money long term. If you can't be one of them then just trade mutual funds and etfs. The market...

Since only 5% of all traders consisistently make money in the market I don't think it makes much difference what system they use.

As a side note, EVERY INDICATOR we have was someone's attempt at finding the holy grail. If that is not proof there is no holy grail other than money management, I don't know what is.

LMAO. Fraudulent technical indicators? Indicators reflect what has happened in the past. They are not fraudulent. They are not guaranteed to do anything other than reflect what has already happened. There is no conspiracy. Everyone is not out to get you. No one is forcing anyone to use...