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foo, I agree with you 100% chicago tends to get really out of wack with the others because of all of the speculative interest in chicago. With harvest really getting underway in a week or so with the soft red winter crop I think you are going to start to see both kc and minneapolis trade at...

ya I am currently long dec kc over dec chicago at -13. Look for it to trade somewhere in the range of 10-20 over chicago. Like you said minn chi spread is not yet ready but maybe an oppurtunity later in the summer or early fall. What people really don't realize though is that this hrw crop is...

Sure As you probably know there are 3 main types of wheat, hard red spring (Minn) hard red winter (KC) soft red winter (chi). The main difference in the wheat is the protein content. And basically the more protein the more the wheat is worth. So with hard red spring having the most protein...

currently long kc over chicago wheat and expect kc to be worth somewhere in between 10-20 cents over chicago. will look to get long minn over chicago in the future.

Since may is an old crop month and july is a new crop month there can be some huge differences in the spread from year to year. New crop is always the crop everyone is uncertain about and the old is the crop that the trade has more of a handle on. Hope that helps.

Huge technical buying. The pit was roaring.

You bring up some good points. But I thought Brian Hunter blew up?

Are you saying this on purely technical grounds? Thought about buying one today at around 8.08 but the energy market seems to be pretty sick today. I will wait to see what tomorow brings. With huricane season upon us I would see no reason to sell nat gas. I think guys run to natty the most...

well said.

nitro could you further explain by what you mean as a mathematical edge. How can you mathematically gauge certain events and fundamental changes in a market? How can you mathematically gauge a certain feel in the market? Also when you talk about TA I completely agree with you unless you are...

shouldn't you be trading or is today your day off

Wow you are more of an idiot than I thought if you think that a damn computer can trade better. THEY ARE MACHINES! They have no thought or feeling about the market they simply do what they are told. Sure in low volatility situations like we are having now they can probably churn out some...

I can't wait until huge volatility comes back to the financial markets and those quants get blown out of the water. Then we will see who really can survive in this business.

Nitro I am not sure if I agree with you completely but I do partially. In my opinion the bid ask spreaders are dead except for a few distinct strategies that are still viable. But those will soon go too. The extremely short day trader is going to be a dinasaur also. But the position trader...

Has anybody ever taken the time to notice that the top traders are almost all discretionary. It seems like lately people think that the market is just like everything else and can be justified with science and complex math. FORGET IT the market is what it is and will never be completely...

Some guys have all the luck. My system has only 2 milisecond turnaround and I am about ready to take the little amount of money I have left, buy a bullet and rent a gun.:D

I think www.spectrumcommodities.com has something

Anybody starting to get a little worried about the root depth of these plants. The seed goes into the ground wet and now we have lots of rainfall over the corn belt. If we get even some sort of a drought this year these plants could be doomed.

bigbiscuit hey thanks for the advice, I know I said I would like to know more about options spreads (which I do) but I really want to know how the cattle industy moves in the short term hence this is why I started it in the ag forum. You mentioned do the above research and I did look on the cme...

Hey thanks for the insight but could you tell me exactly how these options spreads work. I have actually wanted to get more into options trading the ag markets but find them hard to understand. Thanks