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Babak ...So telling the Iraqi people to 'do something' is (if you will excuse me) extremely naive.... No offense taken. :) I was replying on a more general sense. If they ask for help from western nations we should consider giving them. When the situation reaches unbearable limits...

Some very good arguments in these threads. I see some of your points, about preemptive attacks. Policing the world etc. And it is much easier for you and I and many of us sitting here in our nice houses, green grass and few cars in the garage, to say go and kill them and we can we can...

Babak, In a simpler sentence: Just leave them alone and let the Iraqi people take their problems and solve them. Why do we need or have to do something and why now about Iraq? hmm. that was 2 sentences, first one applies directly :) Second, to get your opinion on why we need to do...

...Why, if Saddam is a madman, has he not used gas or anthrax on us? Osama would – in a heartbeat. Probable answer: Saddam does not want himself, his sons, his legacy, his monuments, his dynasty, his army and his country obliterated and occupied by Americans, and himself entering the history...

...Josh, Thanks for your reply to my question. But I was asking about Iraq specifically. What do those that are against a war with Iraq suggest we do exactly? Sit back? work through the UN (for another 11 futile years)? I'm all ears.... No problem. It was more of a general answer...

By Dan Morgan and David B. Ottaway Washington Post Staff Writers Sunday, September 15, 2002; Page A01 ...Although senior Bush administration officials say they have not begun to focus on the issues involving oil and Iraq, American and foreign oil companies have already begun maneuvering...

are we being led down the same path again? ...before his seizure of Kuwait, the Iraqi dictator was regarded by many politicians and journalists as merely another unpleasant Third World strongman, for whom US foreign policy establishment had a necessary affinity... ...on the heels of the...

From Babak, earlier on this thread. ....09-16-02 12:35 AM candle, I understand what you are saying and I agree with the general notion of the US throwing its weight around the world. But I want to ask you this. What do you suggest?... The final answer maybe difficult and and very...

Good post babak. Let's just hope that the books (dossier) in this case are not cooked. Whom can we trust? This is an interesting quote: "We shall have world government whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent"...

"There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history in America, as an independent press You know it and I know it. There is not one of you who dare to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my...

"We are going to impose our agenda on the coverage by dealing with issues and subjects that we choose to deal with". -Richard M. Cohen, former Senior Producer of CBS political news "Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have" -Richard Salant...

"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas". -Brock Chisolm, former Director of the World Health Organization Josh

.....Without the hidden internal agendas calculated in, you can't properly frame this question. These are but a few of the special interests who'll be putting their individual voices in the mix. So in analyzing it all, say so! This IS truly about a whole lot more than OIL.... Great post...

"Of all contrivances for cheating the laboring classes of mankind, none has been more effective than that which deludes them with paper money". - Daniel Webster Josh

"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, it was planned that way". - Franklin D. Roosevelt Josh

"The IRS is an extraordinary example of the end justifying the means. The means of this agency is growth. It is interesting that the revenue officers within the IRS refer to taxpayers as 'inventory'. The IRS embodies the political realities of the selfish human desire to dominate others. Thus...

"Give me control over a man's economic actions, and hence over his means of survival, and except for a few occasional heroes, I'll promise to deliver to you men who think and write and behave as I want them to." Benjamine A. Rooge Josh

"The war against illegal plunder has been fought since the beginning of the world. But how is... legal plunder to be identified? Quite simply. See if the law takes from some persons what belongs to them, and gives it to other persons to whom it does not belong. See if the law benefits one...

"I have never seen more Senators express discontent with their jobs ... we have been accomplices to doing something terrible and unforgivable to this wonderful country... we have given our children a legacy of bankruptcy. We have defrauded our country to get ourselves elected". -John...

"I believe that if the people of this nation fully understood what Congress has done to them over past forty-nine years, they would move on Washington. It adds up to a preconceived plan to destroy the economic and social independence of the United States". - Senator George Malone of Nevada...