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Let's say 1 second before close I put a limit buy on a stock a good bit below the current stock price. Let's say stock closes at 10, I place the limit order at 9.8 one second before close. Limit order is good for 90 days (the max IB will let you keep one in place without re-placing it). If...

So wait a sec. The drops in the 1800s were before the Fed, correct? Naturally, more big drops when no central bank to begin easing when needed. I learned that in school at least lol. Fewer big drops in recent times because of the Fed. I don't think anyone is on the Fed's case just for the...

I gotta tell you man, if that's what you got out of that chart, bravo for you. I'm seeing 3 drops of 50% or more in the 1800s, 1 in the 1900s, and 1 (and only one) in the 21 century thus far (2020 was like 30 something percent drop, significantly less). They are just numbers man, might as well...

I can. They all happened before the year 2000!!! No idea. Edumacate me please. :)

That was it comagnum! Thanks, I love preachy, still digging in and investigating these numbers, trying to understand them (if there is anything really to understand lol). I'll look at SOXL for those time periods you mention, I have no doubt you are right. I just wish these 3x things went back...

Now THERE is a helpful post lol....

I harpooned a few whales back in my day, I just wish they had been crypto whales. :(

I too believe this. Everyone is trying to out-speed the other guy, the ups and downs will only get faster and faster overall.

I wonder why it dropped so much in Apr 1942? The Japs had bombed up months previously, so it was old new we were getting in the war. Maybe we lost some big battle that month? Or why the drop then? I'm going to guess it came back rather strong. :)

Damn, Ph1l, if I understand what you are doing its something I dreamed of awhile back. You are plugging the closing prices of X into a program. The program then spits out the equation that came up on average with closest prices that were as close as possible to those actually observed. Then...

Didn't someone reply to this earlier? I thought I read something but now gone? It was a good reply to if I remember correctly. I must be going crazy lol.

I hear you. I suppose one can never really evaluate the risk of ETF sponsor going belly up. As a side note - have ETF (or ETNs I suppose) sponsers ever gone belly up and their left investors without the money they were owed on their positions? I know they close funds all the time, but I...

That could VERY well be the case DiceAreCast, in other words, the cost of adding the leverage that allows you to invest less but still get much more upside will drag down your returns to such an extent that the upside on the things you invest in with that money you were able to set aside is...

1. Overconfidence? LOL, this whole point of this thread is I am NOT confident in the product, hence my testing tons of different things to (hopefully) get a better overall long term result. 2. Yes, leverage comes at a price. Everyone knows that. 3. Yes, a 3x is going to have more...

So, from the 2/10/11 start date of TQQQ, if you have put $40 in TQQQ, $30 in GLD and $30 in EDV I calculate your account would have grown to $1,878.63 today, giving an IRR of 29.70%, with a max drawdown of 32.99%. Not shabby at all.

Well, you know I won't be able to test that with TQQQ wmwmw, because TQQQ has not had a 90% drop since TQQQ inception. Don't you also think waiting for a 90% drop is too long? I mean, that will happen so very rarely. What if you made it a 60% drop or 50% drop? Sure you wouldn't be getting in...

Like I said dude, I'm not discounting your strategy. You seem to think it is the best thing ever. I will look into it in.... OTHER THREADS, I promise. This thread is about the subject matter in the OP. Thanks!

Yes, yes, we know the mantra. Their leverage entails certain "costs". But then, it entails certain "benefits" as well - i.e. being able to have less $$$ invested.

LOL, wat? I'm very confident I have far more money than you lol. That's not the point. This is very simple to comprehend. We are trying to come up with a portfolio that will beat the market, pure and simple. Using a leveraged product allows you to free up money you'd otherwise have tied up...

But wmwmw, when you say: If there is no 90% drop, TQQQ will make more. Don't you mean that leaving your $$$ in GLD will make more, since you are only switching your GLD money to TQQQ if there has been a 90%+ drop?