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I think we will be waiting a long time to see any positive results from a $20k account trading multiple emini contracts..I would give it about 2 weeks to a month..depending on how lucky the poor fool is!

all 3 and some more..imho stocks are the least risky bet for daytrading..and swingtrading.. which is where the real money is to be made daytrading is not for those with little experience..for instance..using technical indicators like fibs or stochs to daytrade is a recipe for disaster..maybe...

how did you come to the conclusion that day trading stocks is not a good idea...if you tried it what approach did you use...maybe that was the problem...or did you even try it?

any amateur has a chance of winning if he/she is clever enough to step back and look at exactly what is going on for example..just step back and look at all the silly and ridiculous threads that are on ET..no wonder amateurs are confused..and then wonder why they lose when they run off and do...

it is like saying playing 18 holes with just one club..even though it is possible..the results..or the outcome..will probably not be very good even when most who play golf get a full set of clubs..very few make it into the big money game..which of course everyone knows is not achieved overnight...

professional golf players have a full set of clubs!

you seem to have a lot of experience based on your posts..so why do you need market scanners and complicated programming if the same results..or not better..can be achieved by concentrating on a single market..or a very small number of trading instruments?

interesting question...some say a chart is a chart is a chart...I don't think anyone who tries to make money trading VIX future spreads might agree with that statement...which leaves another big question...what are the best markets to trade and how does one know which market is best suited for...

seems like you are all over the place...which is why your results are the same...the human mind is much better suited to limited concentration...but hey...do not feel bad about yourself...as you are doing exactly what most do...when the markets opened up many years ago...new strategies had to be...