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I would not agree that this is "unprovoked". NATO has been provoking for 30 years. James Baker promised that NATO would move "not an inch..." into East Germany. Yet, what happened. H. W. Bush promised that NATO would not expand to former Warsaw Pact countries. But what do we see now??

If you look at the damn map, you'll know. It is unthinkable for Ukraine to join NATO and have NATO missiles deep near the heart of Russia. It is the existential threat. This is something James Baker swore that US would never do it.

The problem is that all politicians mis-calculate. Russia clearly considers Ukraine joining NATO as its existential threat. Just like Hitler taking Poland and stationed army on its border. So the Empire struck. So NATO and Ukraine just gave Russia the reason to invade. Clearly nukes are...

It is just wrong to mix politics and military affairs with human life and culture exchanges. What Ukraine thing has to do with soccer matches and music concerts? All this only make the world to more extremes. Look back at the 1990 Tiananman. And 2014 Crimea. None of those sanctions really...

So does the credit rating mean anything?

No difference at all. Do not keep stating the BS like this.

But how much Russia borrows from the West. So Russian credit rating is junk. So Russia can turn it to junk and do not have to repay....

It will last. West just pushes Russia and China further together and de-couple from the West. Short-term impact. But hurts West in the long run.

That is all BS....

You are just blind. When Apple factory in China imports chips, does it count as China imports? Same with TSLA or Samsung?? Most of that goes back to USA. And you know how much China spends on oil??

This is true. Putin won't allow the 20% Russians marginalized. Latvia just shut down its Russian language TV station. It has 20% Russian population too.

This is just BS.

This is true. This is why Biden does not even want to touch SWIFT. This action makes China Yuan the other viable option.

Not true at all.... A lot of those chips are made in China....

The real risk is that Russia takes Mykolaiv, Odesa and link to Transnistria. Then Ukraine access to Black Sea can be effectively blocked. The remaining Russian population dominates the coastal regions. Look at the flag of Transnistria. It has the Soviet flag.

Turkey? Are you sure you are sane? What interest Turkey has? What about Afghanistanis? They are busy feeding their own people.

This is true. Kicking Russia out of SWIFT will be a watershed moment. But it is not a nuclear moment. If Germany wants to buy Russian natural gas, it has to pay. Russia can certainly slow the flow of gas until it receives the funds. But how Germans will pay Russia when SWIFT is turned off?

Not really true. As a former banker, I know there are other ways to do cross-border transactions. SWIFT is not the end of the world. The reason that US, Germany and EU are very reluctant to kick Russia our of SWIFT is because they believe this action will kick Russia to China's financial...

Some kind of early Fool's Joke??

This is the mentality of a bad trader. Always optimistic and wishful thinking. Not facing the reality.