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Ztroll: >Blessed be Lord Turok! I try. Though I can never hope to be Gilbert. Praise be. JB

Ztroll: >That God cannot be limited by anything outside >of God, because there is nothing outside of God If an "unlimited" god wants there to be something "outside of god", there will be. You telling this "unlimited" god that it can't be done is merely Troll hubris. (and just plaid...

Interestingly enough, it is *only you* who is attempting to tell us what god could and could not do. I only hold one thing as fact ... if god is truly "unlimited" as you say, then god cannot be limted as you say. JB

Stu: >has anyone got any clue what the hell the >TrollZzz is ranting about now? It seem to be in particularly prize contradictory form the last couple days. JB

The Ztroll tells us how "God is unlimited", in the midst of a post telling us what he/she/it CAN'T DO! Priceless. JB

M21: >Please use another source or describe the official >organization who made such claim and their >affiliation/purpose/motive/(who funded them)... It's pretty funny ... before I posted that originally I went to Google news figuring I could find another report (perhaps from a wire)...

I follow Stu, and for me I wouldn't need any "special" time put aside. For many people however, it really means something to them to have specific time assigned to worship or prayer. Seems to me a small silent period for all students to do their own spiritual thing (or not) would be a...

I've always thought that this was an excellent solution ... perhaps only a minute or two rather than ten, but the same idea. JB

V00: >...This country was founded with God as its backer >and you don't have a chance in hell of ever >changing that... Even if you're wrong and God doesn't exist? ... Even *then* we don't have a chance in hell of ever changing that? LOL JB

V00: >I have never asked for anything supernatural. Wait a minute ... ... ... >A modest prayer for guidance in the right direction >has been more than rewarding for me in trading >and in life. You just did. JB

Perhaps you could point out which "atheist buddy" says that nature is supernatural. Stu and I have both directly stated that it is NOT. Are you having a exchange on this tread with an invisible "atheist buddy"? JB

That's a fine supposition, and I've no problem with it ... *except* it doesn't address this assertion of yours: V00: >I personally don't know of anyone who >actually prays for supernatural things to >happen. Do you ? So we *suppose* that the creator only gives us what we need, not...

VOO: >God is nature. So those that are praying for >rain are really praying to nature to get back on cycle. Of course they are praying for nature to get back on cycle. Problem is (for your argument), is that they have lost faith that nature will do that on it's own and are now praying...

LOL. You substitute a half page of prattle for a defense of your statement. It's clear then that you don't have one. JB

ZTroll: < ... computer generated table of random numbers? If you know a whit about computer programming, you'll know that the above is a absolute oxymoron. computer generated random numbers always come from a seed and are never truly random. JB

Any response V00? Thanks. JB

Any response V00? Thanks JB

Exactly what I expected ... when asked to produce via the most independantly reliable means possible (a third party satellite service) you can't come up with diddly squat. Enjoy your fear moment (after moment after moment). JB

Talk is cheap. Google Earth me. JB

I'll accept empty. Just show me the pictures. I repeat ... Google Earth me. JB