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  1. J

    Iterative Refinement

    I see that one has tapes in opposing directions. Can the leap be made that a traverse must be formed by two tapes that form in opposing directions? The only difference I can see is that your past chart has traverses (or whatever they are) annotated that do not have a tape in opposing...
  2. J

    Iterative Refinement

    Any reason we arent comparing orange and blue on both? I assume you are wanting me to see that one doesnt have a traverse after the pt3, however this brings up another issue, at what point we can confirm a channel
  3. J

    Iterative Refinement

    Spyder.. I will try to be concise.. Vocab Primer Here you detail a 'definition' of sorts for the tape & channel/traverse. The traverse definition can also apply to tape apparently, as witnessed in the quiz today. Also, I have attached the chart you did to explain the three fractals...
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    Iterative Refinement

    You are getting caught up with the up 'container'. It is very difficult to discern what exactly constitutes a traverse, which leads to equal confusion as to what constitutes a channel. It appears that there was not a channel formed throughout the duration of Friday A clear cut definition of...
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    Iterative Refinement

    I noticed Slightly differ, maybe. I realize that there may be things omitted as he roughly annotated his charts based upon what he had presented at the time. However, I do not believe that he annotated tapes in that manner - EVER. Thus, I think it is logical to say they arent tapes. I...
  6. J

    Iterative Refinement

    Do you have the ability to answer, or shall we just ask each other questions repeatedly? Is asking questions your way of sidestepping the fact that you dont have an actual answer to the question posed? It's ok to admit that you are not 100% sure... embrace the unkown
  7. J

    Iterative Refinement

    LOL So it just so happens that: Spyder annotates his tapes with pts 1,2,3 FTT and in the same width as his traverses in this diagram These 'tapes' fit the description of a chubby tape/traverse to the T Spyder has annotated gaussian changes (B2B,R2R) as price moves through tapes in...
  8. J

    Iterative Refinement

    Beginning with pt1 of the red channel, I count three traverse level signals for change -- 14:30, 14:45, 15:10 . There also appears to be one forming on the last bar of the snippet (jokari window) These all occur on the gaussian peaks that correspond with the 'points' of the red channel. I...
  9. J

    Iterative Refinement

    The situation is jokari window change, which is traverse level change. This also has nothing to do with the proposed question. This is a situation where clarification is needed (requested?) when Spyder presents a ruleset that appears to contradict what has been stated in the past (ie. on...
  10. J

    Iterative Refinement

    Thats fine and dandy... and I like your use of Spyder's comparison :D However, if you look at the trades Spyder posts occasionally, they always enter/reverse on the FTT itself (never the pt 3). I challenge you to find one that subsequently FBOs. They may have happened, but they are rare...
  11. J

    Iterative Refinement

    Of course it is quote: The FTT (Failure to Traverse) marks the turning point of a trend, and more importantly, a change in trend direction. Spyder's words Let's not quibble, or try and reinvent the wheel here. Questions are being posed and answers are being given that are not the...
  12. J

    Iterative Refinement

    I got the impression that Spydertrader knows at the point of change [several bars before RTL bo on decreased volume] whether a fan or opposite direction traverse is upcoming.
  13. J

    Iterative Refinement

    I think the more I read the posts today the more confused I am getting :confused: It seems that we have decided that tape level change (decreasing Vy with increasing V) hints at an upcoming fan.. Jokari changes on the other hand are traverse level change, leading to a traverse forming in...
  14. J

    Iterative Refinement

    Ahh I was looking at the wrong bar That makes sense, if that is indeed what Spyder was pushing us towards EDIT: That would also seem to apply to the 11:10[closing] bar that began the move from pt2 to pt3 ?
  15. J

    Iterative Refinement

    I think you are confusing the various signals of change discussed today with the ftt, which is a change signal itself.
  16. J

    Iterative Refinement

    Todays Chart I am trying to get caught up on all the good discussion throughout the day. I did have one question : Does bars 6-7-8 sequence today qualify as the jokari window change as detailed by Spyder today? I had annotated it as such this morning and meant to discuss it later.
  17. J

    Iterative Refinement

    Thanks for the hint .. and the next quest begins!
  18. J

    Iterative Refinement

    Fairly straightforward morning
  19. J

    Iterative Refinement

    Todays Chart... 11am -> in hindsight Spyder.. I noticed that you dont annotate ftt's of traverses that end up being fanned (pt3 recycled for new pt1). Is this something you delete later, or that you recognize that the ftt will lead to a fanned channel in realtime?
  20. J

    Iterative Refinement

    Morning Take
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