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Roberk, as you'll be aware zero sum mechanics/dynamics have been debated on ET before .. although it does seem to stir up controversy! But one short answer is that a market returns to zero with gyrations around that theoretical zero. Or put another way the move sizes of the major gyrations...

Stairway to Paradise by Gershwin "I'll build a stairway to paradise with a new step every day." The plan I use is a zero sum model to exploit index futures, specifically the DOW. Now most trading is from the institutional and commercial players which must leave tons of room for the...

"This is not a cheese level of taking money out of the market; you will be taking 3 to 6 times the trend H/L out per trend four times a day." Grob109 No, not a cheese level, no, its 3, 6, 12 times the H/L .. and 4, 8 times.. a day.. why not? You can tell anyone thats pops up on ET and why of...

"There are zillions of people who use charts in many many ways. I am glad that they do .." Grob109 So am I .. but that is just sheer selfishness on my part. However more seriously, I'm not one of your detractors and indeed I have noted the seemingly enormous amount of time and effort...

JohnnyK, hi. Prescient of you characterize what I do as a simple plan. Thats the thing .. it is simple. Thats not to say it is or was easy .. more than a year of development went into crafting this trading model. Why is it simple? One category: futures. One market only: DOW. Play: day...

Its amazing to read one apparently well studied user of charts decry other users of charts. Those other chart users are allegedly hostile and uninformed .. wedded to failure. I don't use charts. They would be useless for creating a numeric trading model .. both for creating and fine tuning...

Its more than trading. Its easy, very easy, for anyone myself included, to slip into negative mantras as the norm. You hear it around you all the time. But this marks out the steady losers as well as panic lovers. So remind yourself, if you need to, to stay with the positive or as the song...

Well I do have a background in futures although subsequently I did quite a little bit on things to do with the stock market. Big dough accumulation for the smart researched operator IMO is index futures (ie DOW) as the quickest route. I play the DOW day trading. But the sheer volatility...

Jem: agree. Its always the same. Those that charge or make money from giving advice or coaching on successful trading play, can't do it well enough themselves and have never made it big. If they had made it big they would not be jacking around wanting to advise others how to do it.

Simply LiveCharts from Quote.com for the DOW.

Start capital size funnily enough is not important. A big slug of capital for those who are not wholly disciplined and without a finely honed and tested trading model is an invitation to jack away all of it or a lot it anyway. Make the points. Accumulate the points. Increase your bet size...

Do my own details of my trading as I'm wholly target orientated. I also keep an account of accumulated net points (DOW which I trade) per day per week. Its important to keep on track with your weekly points target and points accumulation separate from both bet size and net gains.

"..go to Brazil when you want to bed gorgeous women.." AIDS, man, AIDS .. the whole dick country is throbbing with it.

For Galt the Dolt. Sweet. Got time on its hands to waste and is jacking itself about researching posts. You need to get a life. And then there is your "linguistic analysis.." !!!! Now, you are in the wrong site. This is for traders, stupid. And one more thing, full time loser, you...

MrJohnGalt .. or Dolt What would you know, loser? Stay in the dark.

Receiving 1000 mil, nah, a nightmare. Making it .. now thats the whole point of trading; now that would be something! Or a lesser sum of course.

Splphil, yeah, good diagnosis. Trading psychology is nevertheless overdone. The reason is you must create (or find) a system that is predictive and very reliably so for your chosen market (ie DOW). Sure backtest, backtest, backtest. Next you have to play it and then from that experience...

I enjoy thinking. Thinking never gets me fu*ked up. But I use brainpower to create and to keep fine tuned my system. Heres what you should not do. Do not let the emotional power of your brain intervene to make you stray from your system or to override your system or to make you think you...

".. that will allow me to run price dispersion, time series and other analyses.." Hello Dollars Would also be interested in software for above/related areas.

Interesting piece Mind .. don't know whether I agree with you fully. Online trading to make money keeps you independent which is a big plus for most traders. People in offices or other work seem to get fu*ked up all the time with stress either from co-workers or taking orders from the...