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That is absolutely incredible. It is utterly impossible to prove there isn't a god. It's not even a possible question. One can only conclude that there is no God. To even begin to entertain the question, one must presuppose the existence of God. So you're asking an atheist to assume God exists...

Exactly. It's called trust. Poignantly said. Even the medium of the INTERNET and the computers that connect to it that we use to converse is a product of science, not religion. What's sad is that the theists here will look upon those that do this as savage and silly and debase their...

I know, you're right. It's sad just how narrowminded the theists here are. They say in the most idiotic way, "prove god doesn't exist." Well, ok, but which one? They forget there are many more than just the particular one they believe in. It think they should start to ask the believers in...

*shaking head* You just don't get it. And it gets a little silly. You do know that there are many creation stories and many differing views of God don't you? Of course you do. And you'll run around thinking that those other views are wrong, right? You might laugh of pity those who hold...

A few things. 1. Science is not a religion. It's a methodology. 2. Concluding that there is no god(s) is not an assertion. It's a conclusion. Do you realize that you are already an atheist? Unless I'm mistaken and you believe in all the Gods people hold dear currently. Anyway, I...

I'm calling your bullshit out. Since you were probably hoping I wouldn't bother to take the time and effort to go back and quote you. But here goes: YOU SAID: What's underlined is a blanket statement about atheism that is patently bullshit except in the case of the most ardent...

Honestly, where did you come up with this? You keep referring to strong agnosticism as the general agnostic position. Nothing could be further from the truth. It's a minority view much more uncommon than strong atheism. What's more, strong agnosticism is no better than theism in that it...

Seriously, step away and take some time to understand what proving a negative entails. And remember, "no God" is a conclusion not an assertion. Learn the difference.

This is true of the grand majority of atheists and agnostics. It's plain and well known in both communities. But it's apparently a threat to theists to know that atheists and agnostics are actually very much open minded. They know the onus of proof rests with the theist and that both atheism and...

Go back, read what you wrote and think about it, honestly. Then come back and discuss it without obfuscation. Quote yourself if you need to.

Yes, you did. And you know you did. This thread has made it known to you the atheist position. Then you go on ahead and misstate it anyway because it supports your argument. And you make no strides towards correcting it in spite of what atheists routinely have said to you in this thread as well...

I'd apologize except that the post of yours that I responded to, pigeonholed and deliberately misrepresented the atheist viewpoint. Hence, it being labeled preposterous. And this other notion that "the only way one can know for sure that there is no God is to have complete knowledge of the...

That's preposterous. Atheists ask for proof of theist assertions. Clearly if presented with proof that is testable and falsifiable, atheist will concur that God(s) exists. It's that simple. But since nothing to date lends itself as evidence of God, atheist conclude that there is no god...

You really are pretty dense when it comes to this particular subject. 1. Someone, some time long ago, asserted God. 2. Since then, someone has asked for proof. In the absence of proof, what is to be concluded? That it might be so? No. Because since the assertion is extraordinary, it...

[/b] Are you really this ignorant of what proving a negative is? What does this have to do towards proving the existence of God? Nothing.

Well said!

I'm not going to play dictionary defense with you. If you want to think of atheism as a belief, by all means. If that makes you sleep better at night, go for it. I mean to say that atheists believe there is no god means that there certainly is a god and that they are deluding themselves. All...

Hardwired propensity to belief in unproven things in the human genome perhaps? Not really. It's becoming by its own standards, more apostate than ever before. Due to both internal and external forces. Not to mention how doctrine is handed down in a nearly "telephone game" manner from...

There might be a few like that sure. But no genuinely rational person would deny a thing proven to be or fail to even seriously consider the evidence. But, well, you know... Salvation is dependent upon faith. So proof of God ultimately won't save anyone anymore. Unless this God sets up a new...

Yet they continue to divide themselves on doctrinal issues. So much so, one group swears the other isn't Christian. Why has it stood the test of time? Well don't get so high on that idea. Christianity is only 2000 years old. Judaism is 4000 years old. There are religions that are older than...