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I did not mean to sound so negative. I just think moving averages are a waste. They are fine for guaging general market direction, but really you can do that by just looking at the price bars. I think the concepts behind market profile is what trading is all about. I don't care if you are...

Stop using indicators. Let you mind image the line on the screen. Traders use MA's because they are lazy. MA's are worthless. Spend your time studying something like "Market Profile".

I would stick to TS unless you are a programming genius. As far as the expense, I think it is ridiculous to be a nit picker for minor fixed expenses when building a trading business. That's like opening a Walmart store on some country road because the property is cheaper. Looks like...

I can't believe you went thru all this just to make a lousy $1,600 bucks.

This was a strange thread. I am going to walk the dog.

One of my methods is entering after the 4:00 PM close of the index futures and holding overnight until the open. I know it is nuts to some....but does anybody else trade this way:confused:

I trade futures. Only trade the afternoon and after close until open. Guess I am an opposite.