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WOW You Win that is the award for waisting the most amount of time detracting from this thread- now why don't you take your own advice and... I give you points for creativity though

someone may have already suggested this but I think what Newby is trying to suggest is this you make all of your trading decisions based on the 5 minute- very important because focussing on the one can lead you very astray- but when ou are looking at the formation of a rocket starting to...

I wasn't very good to start with:)

Very true and Very Kewl. Jack has changed the way i think/ approach a lot of things. I played a couple games of chess today and was amazed by how much farther ahead in the game I could see as a result of my 'new' way of thinking.

Bundlemaker, thank you, just about what i thought i would see, much appreciated.

I was hoping someone could post a 15 min chart. I lost my data when my system crashed and I would like to see what the 15 looked like this morning. thanks

My software "First Alert" has crashed in some manner everyday this week. I was hoping someone could recomend one that they rarely have trouble with, maybe a web based one. One that works well for this trading method. All imput is appreciated, I know this is off topic so feel free to PM me...

"The point is this: I want you to be in fractal heaven. I am getting you to a place where you can dicern what fractal to be on by looking at the performance of the indicators signals we use to make money." I have had this question for a couple days. When you talk about using different...

I am having trouble understanding jack last post, could someone maybe post the times or price values for a couple of the points he is talking about.

"they are so smart that they skip steps and do not actually know what they are doing well enough so that they get to live in the surprise and drawdown world sadly ever after." Um that would be me - i definately tried to skip iceberging. I will now try to iceberg and simply observe the...

I noticed something kind of cool that i am sure most of you allready have seen. I had several trend channels drawn this morning. both seemed "good" but for different time frames. as we were in an iceberg I expected the shorter timeframe one to be broken and planned on staying in through that...

Thank You You have been extrodinarily helpfull. It is great to be able to hear what someone was thinking when they sucessfully traded a day that killed you. BL

thanks it does, that was my original channel but my only question is why you didn't push the channel out when you got a second point 3? I thought we were supposed to but your chart seems to follow what others were saying today thanks again

Ok I am on the 5 and 15 now (only because Dawg told me to). This is an entirely new experience for me. The flaws i see are the price action not reaching the left side of the channel, and the fast stoc starting to leave the 20 (although it is back now). and finaly the channel broken. If...

this is going to sound pretty bad, but I guess i am a little confused about the Pace, i thought i knew how to find it but I never really go off the 5 min charts to trade (except anticipating withthe one min). I take your coment to mean that when you find the pace of the market you then trade...

starting at 10:50 i tried slaloming on a combination of the channel and frequency/ pace of market. As i saw it we were in a 40-45 min cycle I got in at 10:50 got scared and washed out for a small loss. I tried getting short around 11:10 and held to what i thought would be about the bottom of...

Thanks. your last post is very helpfull, there were a couple things you said that i hadn't thought about. one question the initial long at (996?) was that your first trade of the day? why did you take it - was it out of anticipation of the rocket? if so why didn't you try a short before...

What you are observing is the end of the trend. Typically what happens after a rocket is CCC. which is what you are observing here. the things that you would look at to see this are 1 the trend channels breaking, and 2 the stocs leaving the range. I closed out my position about 10:42...

Newby, the time periodicity tool is ridiculous. with out it I would have gotten burned today after the rocket. I am still working on recognizing when it works well and getting the period earlier but this gets a big :cool: thank you again Jack

Try stepping back for a minute. Everyone myself most off all wants to take on more than they understand. Start with just trading pure rockets. the only criteria both stocs above 80 (below 20)and macd above .4 (below -.4). close out when fast stoc leaves the range then when you see...