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    They were concerned about keeping all government out of religion. Except, that the Satan worshipers in New England did not consider the duty to support the gospel to be a matter of conscience.
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    You sould like a Refomed Presbyterian who believes that governments are established to glorify God instead of to protect individual liberty and sees no distiction between a government acknowedging God and a government assuming authority over the duties which we owe to our Creator.
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    You sould like a Old Refomed Presbyterian who believes that government are established to glorify God instead of to protect liberty; and sees no distiction between a government acknowedging God and assuming authority over the duties which we owe to our Creator.
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    I know. The Constitition incorporated the Biblical principle of Separation of Church and State. That is why the national government was granted no authority over religin. You favor government "advisory" authority over religion. I don't. Only God has "advisory" authority over a man's...
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    In 1798, ten thousand people marched in the streets of Philadelphia to protest when President John Adams assumed authority to give the American people religious advice. Two years later they turned him out of office. During the Grand Days of the Early Republic Congress did not make God the...
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    Founding Father James Madison considered it a pure sacred and truly Christian principle ordained by the Savior in Matthew 22:21. See his "Detached Memoranda" where he refers to anything less than the perfect separation of church and state as a vilolation of Matthew 22:21 If some of the...
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    There was no reference to God and the Bible in the Northwest Ordinance. The reference was to religion. There was no mixing of the duty which we owe to the Creator and poliitics in the Ordinance. There was an acknowedgement that religion was important in a republican form of government...
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    I don't consider Jefferson to be a primary authority on the meaning of the Constitution and the First Amendment. The primary authority is James Madison. Jefferson is a secondary or confirming authority.
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    It is misleading to imply that the Separation of Church and State was developed in 1802 by Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson's famous statement in his 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists was preceded by over two hundred and fifty years of “statements” regarding the Separation between...
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    Show me an appeal to God that grants the government any power over the people's religion? The God appealed to is the same God that ordained a separation between the things that belong to God and those that belong to Caesar.
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    The Northwest Ordinance Did Not Provide For Government Support Of Religion The intent of the first sentence of Article III of the Northwest Ordinance of 1787 was to bamboozle the New Englanders by implying (but not explicitly saying) that the Ohio Territorial Government was obligated to...
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    It was "Protestant" ministers that were were supported. Even Unitarians were considered "Protestant." In 1833, Massachusetts was way out of line with the spirit of the times as it pertained to religious liberty and government support of religion. Ten of the thirteen original States had...
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    It was "Protestant" ministers that were were supported. Even Unitarians were considered "Protestant." Read for yourself what the Massachusetts Constitution said: ...the people of this Commonwealth have a right to invest their legislature with power to authorize and require, and the...
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    That is true. However, from 1775 to 1793 relgious tests were removed in Virginia, New York, Delaware, Georgia, South Carolina, Pennsylvania. Rhode Island and Conneticut never had a relgious test. North Carolina's relgious test of 1776 was ignored. By the end of the founding era, nine of...
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    At the time the Revolutionary War commenced in 1775, there were eight colonies with state churches. However, they were all abolished or suspended in 1776. In 1788, none of the States had churches established by law. The closest thing to a state church were the establishments, in three New...
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    Franklin's motion for prayer at the Constitutional Convention was rejected and there is no evidence in the offical records of the U. S. Congress to support the claim that "prayers have opened both houses ever since." What is your evidence?
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    The founders believed that one of those laws of nature and nature's God was the Divine Law of Separation of Church and State. That is why the Constitution granted "not a shadow of a right" of authority over religion to the national government.
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    Which Justice and what was his source of information?
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    Post just one then.
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    To prove your claim.
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