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I wasn't doubting you. I was just saying I read it was still in service, it used to be the standard infantry rifle though and it was replaced by the m16, right? didn't see your addition before i posted but i get your point.

I didn't know they were. I read there is a different, or modified M14 platform still in use as a sniper rifle to this day in certain branches. Since you have experience with both, care to elaborate on your dislike of the ar-15?

making a statement.. lol. To whom? certainly not anon handles on the interwebs. Few people will even know I have this (assuming I can actually get one), but like i said several times in this thread already - I'm not all that concerned about home defense. I want a gun, and after doing some...

Interesting chart.. holy fucking 50 BMG! Still even though the .308 is a bigger and deadlier round than the .223, we're still talking about rifles. I have to think if the M16/M4 are good enough for our soldiers, then they get the job done. I've seen arguments on other forums that the .223...

well put. This country is deteriorating rapidly. I guess its been in motion for some time but under commie obama the decline is accelerating. without a significant majority of the pop waking the fuck up.. it's probably over. Even some in the military, which I've always respected, seem on...

The Bill of Rights was ratified very quickly after the Constitution itself. In fact, many of the Founders who were uncomfortable with the Constitution demanded assurance that the Bill of Rights (or whatever preceded it) would be passed if they voted for the Constitution. So the Bill of Rights...

I agree and that is where the conversation should start. Reality is the 2nd Amendment was put in place as a defense against tyranny. That's IT.. not hunting, not sport, or any other nonsense. It is a safeguard put in the hands of citizens against govt. And before someone tells me 'you can't...

better than lying. And, this thread is a shining example of someone lying, and even though it is OBVIOUS for all to see.. denying it anyway.

Him owning up is the opposite of lying, it is coming clean. btw you made the mistake again.. dood, i almost can't believe it.

^I don't think backing out of a bet makes one a liar. On the other hand, a poster denying he has had another handle, when there is nearly indisputable evidence that he did, would be lying. I couldn't help but notice a fight between you and trader666, where he said u were range rover and...

Yea Tsing said the same thing on PM.. I will take your advice and try to test one out before I buy. Thing is, they are going to vote on some sort of gun control before the end of the month and the reps are literally just pushovers so I doubt they will vote against this with the school massacre...

that's my (somewhat ignorant) opinion as well. and to be honest I'd rather have one than get a piece of pam anderson's beat up old ass haha. doesn't she have hepatitis or some such, anyway?

BSAM during the time i was banned i noticed u went off the rails with this confiscation nonsense. If the govt starts confiscating weapons (and fellow citizens comply) we are in real trouble.. and it's probably time to find a new nation to call home.

Probably the main reason I want one is because i think they are going to be banned by the losers running our country.

what does it matter? I can't purchase something that I want?

Lucrum, the only person I know who I am aware has an ar-15 is my cousin who moved out to Arizona like two years ago for a teaching gig. I did think about that before i decided on one.. you guys are probably right that I am getting ahead of myself but if they get banned I will regret not buying one.

I'm looking for a quality lasting rifle in case I can't buy another one, that is my thought process. Don't get me wrong i don't want to spend 2500 on something I've never used and don't know how to use but the libs have been getting their way and I have the feeling they will on this as well...

Tsing, I was looking at this originally: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-RECCE-16-AR15-Bravo-Company-carbine-rifle-s/144.htm last time i was on the site it said ALL of their rifles were sold out, maybe that isn't the case now. I have also read good things about a 14.5" barrel with a...

pspr, thanks, I am checking that out now and it might be the road i have to take. Unfortunately I'm really not gonna know what I'm getting though, and i would hate to piss away like 2k or more and get a beat up piece of garbage lol. ideally I would like a flat top or whatever its called so...

are semi-auto shotguns on the chopping block? Plus I'm really not worried about home defense, I just want a damn ar-15 before it gets banned. imo, if civilian police can have them, then I should be able to as well. I understand they are more expensive now BUT this isn't an investment.. and...