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I think this thing could trade down to the single digits. Which means you have to sell so little size that I don't see how it how it could be worth it. Man this bull market is getting long in the tooth when I read posts like this. The time to sell puts is right AFTER the crash, not 4 years...

When I use the word under capitalized it's trader specific. Some guys might have 100k and feel under capitalized. Some guys may only have 5k. Again, everyone has different numbers. It wasn't meant to be a jab. I'm just saying if one "feels" they are under capitalized and wants to only trade...

Your view of trading is very myopic. Has it occurred to you that flipping shares of AAPL is not the only game in town? Ever trade carbon credits? Do you even know what they are? What about basis swaps in nat gas? Ever trade a physical market? Yes, I understand to most of the ET community...

Well, let's be more specific. For an active trader who only trades equities, who is under capitalized and who does massive volume, then yes, for that guy it absolutely makes sense to go prop. Most the equities guys I know moved over to futures or options. Other equity guys I know have enough...

I ran a regional office of a prop firm for 8 years. I know what they are and what they are not. There are pros and cons to everything. I also traded with the largest and most notorious of them all in NY back at the peak. The markets are very different today then they were then. For "most"...

I've been using the two OR's for years although I don't watch them now. Back in 2008 and 2009 when markets were moving crazy they were very effective. The vol is just so dead now I don't see the point. Maybe for something crazy like Gold. Today you have to understand he had to trade...

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You can't be over 35. I'm guessing 28. Even though you do act 14.

Yeah really funny bigarrow. He is sitting on his ass because your "brothers" on the left are threatening to kill him. Ha ha. So funny. I thought you lefties called that a "hate" crime. Bigarrow, I've always wondered about your maturity level. I know AK47 is like 19 with the Katy Perry...

Wait a minute, let me see if I got this. Do you honestly think anyone down here would be starting threads about a hispanic guy shooting a black guy? In fact, it problems happens several hundred times a day in this country and yet there are no threads about it down here. No, only this one case...

Come again? Hero worship. I could give two shits about Zimmerman. Trust me capadre, if the entire fucking black community didn't rally around Trayvon like a civil rights hero I doubt one righty on this board would waste a single breath discussing Zimmerman. And you KNOW that is true.

So why start the thread when you have zero interest in discussing it?

I was just asking a simple question. I guess the honesty thing rubbed you the wrong way. Hence why I gave you the out of simply lying. I guess you went for the ad hominem.

Bigarrow, can you care to explain why your have such a big stick up your ass for this case? Honesty is always appreciated but you can make it up if it makes you feel better. I'm just really curious.

Well, to be fair, at IB you can trade about 75 different foreign markets. At a prop firm you can't. At IB your money is insured, at a prop firm it isn't. Hell IB has domestic markets you can't even trade at various prop firms like VIX futures. So IB still has some advantages. Then there is...

You are talking about bucket shops. Real prop shops pay salaries plus bonus. But in regards to comparing bucket shops to IB, I agree, IB is just as good especially with portfolio margin.

You guys have got to be fucking kidding me. I stay out of the cellar for 3 or 4 months and come back here and the first thing I see is the fucking bullshit about even a 15 year old can fly a plane? Are you fucking serious? Guys, this shit is like two years old. Give it up already. Good...

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MqDawFFDkYg" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> Just watch it. Very well done.

Here ya go: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-22/hedge-funds-trail-s-p-500-by-10-percentage-points-goldman-says.html This has been your upside fuel on this rally. Hedge funds are getting killed on their shorts.

Nope.