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More spin from you perhaps. I didn't say you did say that. I said, you were playing that game. You did say Stephen Hawking was proven wrong, but failed to acknowledge it was science that did so, the only thing that could prove it, so you could even make the statement. Science, the...

As if there is anything progressive or enlightened in supposed grown ups insisting their fantasy friend is actually real.

So how was he proven wrong? I see you're another playing the rather unedifying game of "let's die and see" .

If you're dealing with the metaphysical, simple physical facts wouldn't be your concern.

You're guessing that death is going to prove something. That's nothing but a mugs game pal.

Things boil down to whatever might be wrong is inevitably only going to be found out by the scientific method, which doesn't merely rest on ideas of fanciful sky beasts. It's the only way vast and practical knowledge and an understanding of the workings of the universe, has ever been able...

You think with the laws of physics (yes I know you don't like the fact), mathematics and gravity allowing for a universe from nothing on one hand , and a childlike imaginary invisible friend abstract concept in the form of a fanciful deistic creator with nothing in support but wishful...

You mean a creator could come from nothing but a universe can't? :p

Science is what you know. Religious belief is what you don't.

The scientific method is about demonstrating fallibility. Scientists proved another scientist's findings to be incorrect, which led to further discovery the only way possible. With science. No deity required.

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..and a tuner needs what ...a creator or another tuner.... Infinite regress ..... "engaging in serious discussing".. Lol.

...who needs to insist "God" doesn't exist when there is no evidence of, or necessity for a universe to need one ? What's "God" supposed to be anyway? And because you can't properly establish a "God", doesn't then mean everyone else has to establish there isn't one. On the possible...

Tomato sauce is evidence of a speghetti monster

It's because science is not just another opinion, people like Stephen Hawking do know and can show how gravity would be the 'father of creation'. They may be wrong, but instead of just another opinion, it is science which will be able to tell. There is however only opinion, wishful...

Science, like gravity, is not just another opinion.

There's nothing logical in God first-cause arguments. Also, an astonishingly orderly universe is exactly what the universe shows itself not to be, once you start considering what goes on away from the astonishingly narrow view of a simplistic personal perspective you outlined. Neither is...

It's confirmed then ...... no God is a no brainer.

So naive, idealistic Christian dreamers, who imagine that they are the ones the world has been waiting for, are somehow ruled ok because they are supposed to know they are flawed !? Yeah right, that’ll work. I can see how those Christians who think they are so brilliant, so wise, so...