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You can go back to any day, then any hour in that that and then to any minute in that hour and actually to any second in that minute. So select the day and the time and the market will either stream live from that time forward or you can freeze the time at that particular second. It's pretty...

Yeah I wasn't referring to liquidity. I'm simply trying to say that the "hub" is not where the demand is coming from.

I just pulled up a streaming time and sales from Dec 7, 2009 for NG. So you can actually get tick data if you wanted. My point about the futures is that Henry Hub is just a delivery point. There are more then 50 in the US. Since the price of the physical gas is going to determine who...

Oh, my bad. I missed the "minute" part. They have 5 minute data that goes back to 2009. Can I ask why you are looking specifically for one minute data? I say this because nat gas is highly driven by the physical market and the Henry Hub futures price is really not that important in terms of...

So what gives? We had about 5 active posters all over this trade giving play by play and suddenly everyone disappeared faster then a Malaysian 777 airliner. Dave, are you still in this? You are a no nonsense type of guy that usually lays it all out there. Just curious if you are still in this.

Well, I use different numbers for different products. For stocks and for the purpose of number lines, I use one hour confirmations. But it's lucid. It's more a certain pattern I want to see vs getting down to counting minutes and using an exact o-knife.

I was addressing this issue specifically. Before you call me sleazy, perhaps you should collect all the facts. You tend not to do that. Shoot first ask questions later eh?

You'll defend anything won't you? I didn't call him out by name or where he lived. He talked about where he lived every single day on here and he also told us his life story on here daily. And I "did" keep it personal. I spent a lot of time over PM trying to work out his personal issues to...

I actually use different time confirmations on different products and I use different time confirmations regarding number line purposes and trading purposes. So there is no cut and dry answer. I guess I can ask, are you referring to time frame for purposes of scoring number lines or for actual...

His original handle was Waggie945. He and I use to get into it "many" years ago down here. He, like most out of control emotional liberals, would throw a fit, leave ET, only to return under a new handle. He came back with 5 to 10 different handles over the years. This is his latest...

Well, all the money to be made here HAS been on the shorter time frame. Anyone holding this short long term needs to invest in some life insurance.

Michael, it's OK dude. We're cool. I don't care that your gay. And before you call Baron again at 2am waking him up to get me banned, I'll let you be. I'll stop bringing your sexuality into this. I just couldn't resist when I saw you re-surface. Seriously, I wish you well out there in the...

Is there anyone still short this? This thing is a monster.

Thanks for confirming that you are indeed Michael Wagner. :) That was waaaaaaay too easy. Michael, I thought you would have settled down with some hairy ape in Marin County finishing each others sentences by now. Or did that relationship go sour? :) Don't sweat it Wags, you are...

I was wondering when Wags would come back to ET. He's been posting a lot lately, must not be getting sucked as much in the Castro district these days. :)

Actually TOS does have them.

Neither. Does that help? LOL. :)

They seem to be very active in Chicago. Doing happy hours and more "in person" stuff then over the internet. I think that's a smart move. Web forums are really not very productive. A lot of noise and distraction here.

TOS has data that goes back 5 years I believe.

Also, regarding Copper, the yearly A down is right here at the 3.05 level. But....we are confirming an early cycle monthly A down and are in a late cycle QTR A down. But for long term value players, the 3.05 level is probably a good get.