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so I did a little research since I was suspicious Piezoe mentioned no specifics... no I am not expert and maybe things have changed but this is what I found after reading 3 articles... 1. its seems Taiwan shutdown travel to and from covid zones... quickly (the left and piezoe hated Trump for...

See your bullshit response there.. Not one useful or substantive response about R0 or effective R0 or how many in the community already had covid or anything useful. Not even close to an attempt to explain why testing and tracing could make a meaningful difference given the fact we are told...

once again the socialist bulllshitters who crave centralized power over our lives present us with the myth of the great centralized govt They make up bullshit about testing and tracing working and then have the WHO tell herd immunity and immunity passport are unlikely to work because...

no... it was your article which brought up philly ... you told me to read it. what the hell is going on here? are you on drugs... click your first link its starts with philly? I will post your quote below. my argument is that the response should be supported by the data and real science and...

now you are being a moron posing stupid af moron arguments. No one thinks or says low risk groups don't exposed... or don't catch the virus. I guess you have no clue about what low risk vs high risk means. Low risk people who are less likely to have to go to the hospital or die... when they...

Now you are changing the subject. But, even now remember I know herd immunity is an open question... I am not the one who misrepresented what the WHO said. I quoted them. You misrepresented what they said. If you would like to change your argument... Please state what your new argument is.

WTF? This is not about intelligent social distancing. No one is against reasonable precautions. Its about the lack of data and science supporting the lock down of low risk group.s Man are you psycho about this subject right now. Did Philly's policians tell people they had to stay home and...

I could, but the last two times you claimed something about what an expert said and I looked it up... you were wrong. for instance you mis represented what the WHO study meant today. and you thought de Prado's study about statistics agreed with your concept of a 60 day shutdown when his...

GWB mis represented reality. . This is what the WHO said... " As of 24 April 2020, no study has evaluated whether the presence of antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 confers immunity to subsequent infection by this virus in humans." and This is what the Who said... "Won't Get Fooled Again" We'll be...

Bullshit... this shutdown does not make the virus go away. There is zero evidence for that conjecture. Everything you said is your projection on top of failed model bullshit. Where is the data supporting what you are saying? All the estimates which backed the shutdown as it has been down have...

are you fucking out of your mind with fear? I have a neighbor on Chemo right now who displays more reasoned thought that you have on this subject. She was bummed her doctors cut her treatments short by two treatments because of Covid and she fully understands the risks a compromised immune...

that is a very interesting data point.

you make a good point. But, there is also the potential that there are millions more currently and recently sick who don't have enough antibodies to be found positive for antibodies yet. Cuomo mentioned that there may be a much higher percent of the population who have had Covid because the...

these guys are heros... to speak up. Just this week... multiple medical people said to me... this shutdown in CA is so destructive something must be done. A disaster not just economically because staff and doctors are being laid off but a reverse emerging medical disaster because people are...

every gov and mayor who had access to these stats should explain the their reasons for the continued lockdown of low risk groups or lose their jobs. Every stupid af lefty, dnc unce / soros type who has been not just stupidly wrong but calling those of us with critical thinking skills names...

good thread...

in fairness to usual name, he posted something useful which did not support the narrative. He might be the only non lefty doomer. the rest if the lefties who are not on ignore are big brother loving drones...... you dare not questions the models the narrative or the media...

high risk people are dying... no doubt. but low risk groups should not be in shutdown unless you can show the shutdown would have better results. and you can't show that because your experts warn of a second wave. the shutdown is all guess work. there is no science saying it is superior...

everything Bugen said is bullshit... created off a post I made about my dad's trading. I mentioned he probably died of a reflux related esophageal cancer situation aggravated by his trading... but he did make millions doing it. i said I felt reflux a few times in the past... I don't have...

but many of us have known that it is likely much more covid was in the community than the models or time lines show. I know for a fact numerous family members and friends who went to hospitals and tested negative for flu. T my wife's friends went skiing back in early feb. 5 out of 8 got...