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Saying Jesus is a real historical person because the Bible says so is not going to work. Neither can you make a fictional Jesus character anything else but what it is by trying to say other people think it was non fictional. Both you and they will have to come up with a more thoroughly...

Yeah frippery....a good word for your nonsense. You're clearly very disturbed and angry about defending a religious superstition Jem / res judica… lol ....whatever. Someone on your side of the argument has already informed the thread that scholars are unreliable, Now you are relying on...

"What other reason, except textual persecution, would we find a library of books buried in a clay urn in the desert?" You have given another reason above rather than only "textual persecution" as to why desert nomads would bury their books.. Now it's lost, dropped and safekeeping. Fine...

Accounts of a fictional character through other fictional characters , through a claimed writer of that fiction , with all due respect Ricter, does not make an eye witness account.

Actually that's not true. There are court and church records , marriage certificates formal records of which same process has not altered to this day, and many independent documents about Shakespeare by his contemporaries. There is only one account of Jesus in what could be a version of a...

You beggar belief Jem. You've created another alias to beef up support for yourself because you cannot make any real argument for a non-fictional Jesus, the simple reason being that , well, he is a fictional character who you cannot show to be otherwise. So you' ve now started to cut...

No scholar, no historian, no one, at any time, any place, has ever been able to confirm by ordinary formal standards applied to establishing historicity, that Jesus was anything other than fictional. That is why there is no reason to engage. There is nothing to engage about - zilch, nada, to...

Yes sure it's a reasonable comparison. You think your reference sounds any more credible for making a fictional character real? You must be joking. Nomad camel herders do remote. They would lose stuff remote In my comparison Conan Doyle is said to have left an original library of his work...

All history is fiction. You must be aware how absurd a statement that is. making it totaly hypocritical of you to then try and use pseudo reasoning based on ideas about non-fictional history. Self-contradiction always did appear to be your forte. Although we might agree Jesus is...

No problem dude, I've already noticed how something is usually right when you say it ain't.

But still, not one single word of that provides any evidence of a historical Jesus.

Not one single word of that provides any evidence of a historical Jesus. So why the extra screen name Jem. Does it make you feel you've gotten some extra support :D In the same way your ill-considered posts do , christians have nothing but blustered about how Jesus was historical ...

Not one single word of that provides any evidence of a historical Jesus.

Not one single word of that provides any evidence of a historical Jesus.

It's very straightforward Jem. Everyone knows there are countless verified historical records from Roman times before during and after Jesus was supposed to have been around. There are no verified historical records of Jesus. Why would you expect there to be when the Jesus character is...

You're most welcome. But then religious superstition is enough to make a cat laugh ....or even a bigot.

I see you're still pissing into the wind Jem. One only need consider Josepheus was born 40 years after Jesus was supposed to have died and there is no other history for him to validate anything he is said to have written about Jesus. Consequentially it’s more than a little obvious...

Believing in an imaginary schizophrenic self-harmer which thinks it can help humanity !? :eek: Sounds more like a need for counseling than anything else. Perhaps the indoctrinated might visit a few Easter Bunny sessions to help get a better grip on what fiction actually is.

Beck's insanity aside, to be taken seriously shouldn't Time's Elizabeth Dias have first pointed out that in reality of course no one can actually kill fictional characters?

I'll tell you what, take your own advice.... ….then when you have a better idea of what is going on here, go tell Wiki why you are trying to say how a Definition of theirs which is different to some dictionary definitions, is not a Definition because pollsters group people into sets...