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No, ODI measures maximum deviation of series i.e. there is still chance to go lower without breaking long term trend, but not necessarily closing at such level. In fact as we have studied max high/lows vs. close since 1999 very closely, series very rarely close at maximum highs/lows, so closing...

I no longer use any AT indicators for this. I use ODI developed by myself and according to its calculation market can still go down to 1245/1250 without consideration of changing long term pattern. However, as deeper south we go, probability of reversal grows dramatically.

Wrong, my friend. Yesterday pre open was even more up than this. You know the final.

This was very wet paint :)

Thank you Phil, I`ll use this tip as professional advice and would be no suprise if it works the best.

This all about managed accounts - everything goes smoothly till the moment people learn how to read statements. Then monthly checking, weekly and finally daily comes up. It becomes a part of the life - like daily teeth brushing... an addiction ? Warnings and explanations don`t work. That is...

Thank you Coach, so this pain is common. Mine is actually worse because everytime it happens, I get the same questions. While trading my account I don`t even pay attention to those readings, as I use my own spreadsheets. Nothing to say, I can get better results on my own account due to these...

As I don`t trade Verticals in my first phase I would like to ask you all what average % drop in open equity you experience on days like yesterday, assuming market near short ATM or rolling position.

Right, I`ve always had respect for the way CME is being managed. And no-roll future would be good idea as well, however no clue what political issue sleeps behind this project i.e. what is official "no" against it.

After recent action I`m ready to jump in that market anytime. BTW - they are European. This comes from CME, so looks like IB is right this time. Well, we`ll see once they start being traded.

Well, I run CTA so it takes a lot of hassle to open them at right time and run good result at the end of the month, then always some leftovers become open question what to do with. I have to use consecutively two types of hedging to achieve good results at proper time. This new expiration...

It would take a little while to get used to new expiration dates. 3rd Fridays have become big part of my life by now.

Got them, thank you. No quotes shown yet, looks like it needs another market subscription ? It is marked as "European" which I believe is wrong again. Otherwise the rest looks the same - multiplier and other details.

Momoney, thank you for taking care of me, but trading this was not my intention. I`ve seen this action many times before e.g. most recent - after bombing in London ES was down more than -10 and made up to positive levels right about open. I don`t guess any more.

What is nice about Europe (among many others) is time zone. ES was down -8.50 about 30 minutes ago, which means you may have additional chance to hedge from here in case of disaster. It was about 4.30 AM EST and from this side of the pond can be easily handled. Another thing here - I traded...

First - what a great thread ! I spent almost 20 years living in the US and could not make such discussion with anybody, including some college teachers. I agree that money pressure in the US is tremendous, and it is getting this way in other places of the world (UK for example). This is also...

anyway, it sometimes takes 9 years (and longer) to get green card if you follow legal procedure right from the beginning. Also - you have to deal with one of the worst departments in the US.

ES, regardless your post`s informational issues, you`ve never had any close contact with USCIS, have you ?