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I have called myself conservative, but I can assure you I have offended other conservatives before. It is a label that is way too broad, I am my own party of one. Liberty is to politics what atheism is to religion. Lack of something instead of an overarching belief system with its...

No, just you and a few others. However many times I say it is irrelevent to the truth. You have an set of beliefs tied to your brainstem that makes you reflexively hurl ad hominems when they are challenged- EXACTLY what religious people do. oh and likewise, but so what? I will post as I...

Well in the context of just the penalty portion, I agree with them James, and in that regard the supreme court just ruled 5-4 that this is unconstitutional. Roberts is right that they have the same outcome, money given to the government, but a non-criminal penalty on a mandate is not a tax...

amazing what just happened isn't it? even more amazing is that Roberts acted all alone in ignoring legislative intent and basically rewriting the law so he could support it. It may be possible to do something else legally now that Roberts said it was a tax, but the troubling part of that is...

...and your childish mockery is all you have. I know what drives you to it as well, it's that I know what you really are instead of what you pretending to be, I expose liberalism for the religious sham it is. ok your turn, the only question is will the next mock be even emptier than the...

You subscribe to the leftist religion, impulsively you mock anything that opposses it. You just proved it, there are actually 3 distinct 'sides' that I have been discussing. A black and white religious thinker always has 2 sides: us and them.

you didn't initially bring it up, but you followed on piezoe's point but arguing something like storm window deductions were good because they made us stronger, or something like that.

keyword is presume. the wanker has no clue what critical thinking is, so closed minded from his religion

Robert, good stuff... I have some specific comments, but I'll also say that Roberts seemed to forget about legislative intent. When confronted with a 'mirror image tax' he should have looked at legislative intent. Instead he just made things up so he could pass it. It's worse than that...

Ricter and Piezoe used storm windows, the chief justice himself used gasoline and cigarette taxes. My analogy is actually more proper since it punishes inaction. thanks for the dumb comment, great example of a self assured liberal whose brain is shut down by their religion. It helps to have...

Think about the bizarre and backdoor way this all went down, ACA passed with reconciliation, and then survived with an extremely tortured bit of law by Roberts. Roberts' theory was alone, the court by 8-1 did not concur with his reasoning. This law fails if it isn't a tax, Roberts was clear on...

I agree, to think that just becasue you are insured now means nothing changes is pure fanatsy, but that wasn't the scope of my argument. The reason democrats could not call it a tax is that then they could ram this through in the slimy partisan slimy that they did. The reason Roberts had to...

wtf? did you even read my post?

Well first you have to understand that even Roberts knows that, for some goddamned reason he thought he needed to make sure Obamacare passed. Ginsberg knew thsi simple piece of logic, she actually 'dissented with the majority' on the commerce clause because even she didn't call it a tax ...

no, and real thinkers understand that one mans utopia is another man's hell, and that such things are nonsensical fantasy Liberalism utopia: Socialist Gov't can cure all what ails us, it is a foundational belief in the liberal religion. Straight from Marx himself.

wtf wtf? I'm just outing you and your religion.

You must have been excluded as well poorthinker http://www.infidels.org/kiosk/article238.html

Why do you have no problem making up some inconsistent fallacy? Clearly the tax isn't simply 'there' as if it has some inevitable existance, lots of people find cheaper ways to take care of themselves. The magic of gov't: see Liberals 4:22

yes my stance on atheism must be quite popular over there... idiot