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when you say swing trade indexes, you mean Index Futures like YM, ES,NQ or ETFs like SPY, TAZ etc ? I am trying both but stops on Futures are much bigger

I second this and doing swing. wanted to find out how others are doing DT with FT job. 1 thing many IT jobs allow folks wfh (work from home) for 2-3 days/week so gives lot of flexibility. thats a lucky one if you get

I can't do this in my current job and as I know they wont appreciate taking work time. unless I walk away or step out of office. This work Environment is conservative and serious. I have had Laid back env before, but NOT this one :)

thks Guys. thats what I am doing now, short list in evenings and entering LMT orders in pre mkt, but some dont get filled, due to Gap up/dn. I use TC2000 which has excellent app for iphone/android but I prefer ipad/Laptop, so I sit in starbucks before get to work, sat 8am cst, look at charts...

true, we need charts, price, data and many analysis to make a system

how we manage Day/swing Trading with Full time job like 9-5 with me, my previous job in a Bank gave me flexible hours, so I had 2 hrs every morning for 2 yrs and enjoyed learning, but with my new job, 8.30-500 and I need to be onsite in the office and unable to do trading, except checking charts...

i second this. I used to do all you mentioned except average win/loss, but after added avg win/loss, I improved my system

I am not a programmer, and dont have a way to get this, unless you tell me how. say, I need for the last 30 days for Nasdaq and NYSE

never used wealth lab, but my search yielded one free site that shows historical http://online.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3021-gainnnm-gainer-20150126.html?mod=mdc_pastcalendar I am amazed as no other site has this info, but cant export from wsj site, can see and manually copy the symbols

I I have tried Multicharts and it has a great ranking system in "portfolio trader" but we have to provide symbols list. It can't get Top gainers/losers from Nasdaq like a scanner thks for the response btw:)

yes, correct about ranking them, but I wont go Long on all % up, instead I would apply a SR based strategy I already have in NT/Multicharts well, i have historical intraday data from barchart, but it doesn't have Top gainers/losers data which are some of the Most sophisticated backtesting...

testing a strategy I have against this data, after mkt open

Top Gainers Losers data for backtest ? it sounds like impossible, but I hate to guess, is there historical data of Top gainers Losers to run some backtest ? paid data is fine

good points. I have spent 5 yrs in learning sim and live and still continues. But i too many breaks due to ill health, so every time, is like starting over and that delayed building my system, but I do have one. it takes a lot than what it looks like

in JUST 1 day, this thread has 10 pages, never seen a active thread like this here :) everybody jump in and write to talk about about quitting or staying

most of us spend soooo much of time for years to learn how to do this. and that time has taken away my healthy life, like hobbies, family, friends beside money that hurts me more often !!! question often arise if it is worth or not

No method or nobody can do this without drawdown/ setback, but it gets better if we stay "continuous" but is very tedious and affect health and other areas to do that

I tried with small account, but that fails me bigger, so finally after I vested like 50% of my savings, and learning in sim after 4 yrs. then I started making some, again, in swing and not DT

One of the best comments I have seen. I have gone thru this and many of us do to get Consistency, which is the only thing needed to stay in trading

very true. I responded, swing is less stressful than DayTrade, from my 4 yrs