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Yes. Your false dichotomy. It's a dichotomy and it's false. And where exactly am I supposed to have said you were misrepresenting what inevitable consequence must be...I didn't...so couldn't have been implying any such thing as this speculation red herring you've now concocted. Do you...

It's simply not true to suggest the scientific worldview decides how things are going to be. Fact makes science. Science does not make fact. Abandoning rationality through choice to hit yourself around the head with a baseball bat will merely deprive you of the critical thinking necessary to...

There is no scientific reason to make those false dichotomies in the first place. Just a natural, inevitable consequence would be all that's required. Random chance or something supernatural is guessing. They are unnecessary and groundless even without a theory of everything.

Ricter's proposition was in connection with science or scientism where evidence is always being confirmed and yet is still under some form of scrutiny. Not political philosophy and economics, where it's true, delusion is often allowed to stand for evidence. It's surely the thinking mind or the...

Do you imagine a thinking mind or a critical mind could be either when heavily influenced by the fancy, make believe and superstition called religion.

You must get aggravated with yourself an awful lot. The burden of proof rests on you, the one claiming a (scientific) random chance claim is being made. The claim as much as there is one, is of inevitable consequences, not particular random chance. Random chance is your determined wilful...

Silly false assertions like that won't work either.

You can't make my arguments up for me however much you'd like to. If you'd just calm down a second you might understand what I said which is there are quite rightly statutes against radical extremism. As far as I'm aware, any statute that worked against advocating reasonable and...

There are no doubt many issues you or I may think inappropriate. It doesn't mean they are.

There are quite rightly statutes to hinder radical extremism of all kinds. Take creationism for instance. However, providing an appropriate awareness of something doesn't fall into that category. Challenging an order against that much would seem reasonable.

In this thread that sounds like you're propositioning.

I didn't say it was. I didn't say it would. The norm for using the term marriage can change though, which was my point and must by the same token make your spiel irrelevant. Well then it is merely down to the legal definition of the word marriage. The problem perhaps is with some rightist and...

What is the norm changes, thank goodness. Religion just isn't a good enough reason for owning any particular word, or for dictating what must represent normal. Marriage can be quite straightforwardly and explicitly defined in law as the status in contract by which two people can and are...

Why not. Chances are they're the reason you'd be stuck in a foxhole.

Yes of course in essence you are correct, but specific instances distort what happens in the media generally. I think it fair to say they get the same treatment overall when push comes to shove. Each side has its good and bad press depending on the mood and the events at the time.

Shit Jem, was that a compliment. Nah couldn't be.:confused: Natural Born Citizen will not be ruled on because for one thing there is no need. Common law ,Constitutional Law ,even the words of the father of the Constitution define it , make it perfectly clear. You'd be better off seeking...

Well I don't know about that. One's the President the other is not. I could say Bush didn't get called on his bullshit, although Clinton did. Obama would if birthers had a scrap of any real evidence , which of course they obviously do not and is why all these silly tortured suppositions get...

Just like your brain your links don't work either.

You are jumping to conclusions. I don't want to rip anyone. I consider all politicians with the same disdain. Whereas you are obviously partisan and so are easily and quickly persuaded to assume a long string of anything birther fantasy land can find from what has been described by the...

Let me know when you have anything sensible to say. I won't wait in.