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Just sell the dow with a stop at 65% retracement of 9/1 to 9/7 move. Just now at 50% of that move. Or wait until the 20 bar ma crosses the daily.....the fatal cross as it is often called.

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Reviewing cash is a more stable outlook than just futures. The 15 minute is great to show the swing...trying using macd. trade within a larger timeframe helps too.

August 10 was a typical choppy retracement to about 50% of previous drop. The 15 min macd would have kept you long using a trend line.

I believe Dr. Elder uses a three time period method....try "trading for a living"

I use TS2000i. ...no problem with freezing....might be your processor is overwhelmed.

Yes, I received the same rejection notice today. Might be IB's error or a massive email fraud.

My preference is the Cirque Glidepoint Touchpad, which is guaranteed for life and no moving parts.

Does look to be turning down.

The cash market is not really down, same as the pit.

Yep, no rational, just a continuation of the previous day. Use short term signals such as the 5 min for the breakout.

Further bearish indicators would be a triple daily top on Es from 6/23,27 and this am. Also, a trend line on daily tops of 6-15,6-21 and 6-29

Regarding a bearish argument, the weekly is strongly down with retracement only to moving average. Daily is also down, but possible turning up. The market has some upward momentum for the moment, but bearish move should not surprise.

You might consider filtering your trades through 2-3 time frames and also using mathmatical entries, such as 1/2 or trendlines. Just an idea.

Romik: Regarding the 1265 short.... Do you stay up all night? or then maybe you are not in the USA.

For $15 buy a new one!

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I know some hedge funds using the 20 minute macd together with some other indicators, including cash markets. This would help staying with the short term trend.

Maybe more than 60% now.:D

Voltente: Nice call. Are you trading Sept issue? Low was 1244.25 around 1 hr ago.