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nothing wrong with healthy discussion.. its just that some of us have read all about buy write indexes , and are familiar with the profile of the strategies in the long term.. i've done the Covered call thing.. wrote puts.. sold credit spreads, .. on annd on.. i've read all that on the buy...

The OP has demonstrated that he do not want to time stocks... he had a problem swing trading.. and picking lows in a stock is just that.. while i totally agree with you, that if that is the expression you would like to make on that particular stock it might beat out just putting a limit order...

whatever works for you man.. i'm just not into no productive fighting style arguments... to many people get attracted to options from the covered call standpoint and learn a bit more about options as they lose money.. I learned a few lessons about options in this respect.. by no means do i...

i digress.. i shouldn't have shot back at you , its high jacking the thread.. Maverick makes a good point... a black swan event can never be predicted... such as worlds end.. or a broker going bankrupt etc.. the ideas and thoughts behind covered call and write strategies has been...

the entire point of this thread was lost... The guy doesn't wanna become a trader... You know nothing of black swans.. as by definition, you know nothing of black swans... discussing some percentage of moneyness in regards to likelihood of excise is complete randomness...

I think if more people took your stance they wouldn't need Financial advisers, and "structured products" to purchase.. I like the way you think..

i sometimes thing there is no way to avoid becoming a trader when looking at some of these types of things.. i've always thought if volatility is that high and puts are really that worth selling, its better just to buy the stock period.. Especially when in a situation in which you are more...

selling puts with the intent to take the ownership of the stock takes on much the risk of stock ownership without the unlimited upside of actually owning the stock... That being said there is more to this, as everyone finds out as they practice this method.. A options price implies a...

my bet is we will get a break down soon ..

i've asked around.. no idea

anyone know the reason behind the rally today?

without knowing it your taking a position on the implied volatiltiy of the option.. if your going to use options.. know your weapons... describing otm options as "cheap" , and using the word leverage gives me the impression you need to take a little deeper look.. . everyone always learns.. you...

+ SLD 1 ES AUG 30 '13 + (1) 1700 + (1) 1640 - (2) 1670 Call Combo 12.25 USD GLOBEX 14:29:07 OptTrader i traded out of this today... from 11.50....

i'm long here to.. +.128 deltas + BOT 1 ES AUG 30 '13 + (1) 1640 + (1) 1700 - (2) 1670 Call Combo 11.50 USD GLOBEX 14:48:26 OptTrader 5.68 i had the chance to pick it up cheaper.. but i feel good about this one..

lower highs... weakness.. the z in the z/m is so close to the front , its got alot of direction to it..

no look at the expression... -dec + jun , was the purchase.. so i'm short dec13 , long jun14 .... the curve is backwards so its a negative number... i make money on it going positive, in this case more towards zero.. no stops on spreads.. lots of risk... the spread could go to -10 or more..

i went short via a z/m spread yesterday + BOT 1 CL - DEC13 + JUN14 Calendar Spread -7.10 USD NYMEX AUG 19 16:16:58 just closed it out + SLD 1 CL - DEC13 + JUN14 Calendar Spread -6.30 USD NYMEX 14:03:14 +.80 cents looked like it was rolling over and weak..

i like trading ES options myself..

thats the premise of what he is advertising. No offense to bone. But his help is a service.. people typically trade the winter and summer months against eachohter.. the chart he is showing is m14 against z14 ... he was making a comment about how close to the front month i trade.. and how...

i'd be looking to buy the spread, meaning go short the front long the back... just to get it right for the sake of future speaking.. buying a calender is -1/+1 selling a calender is +1/-1 buying a calender is typically considered bearish to the underlying, depending on how close...