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Why the lefties don't seem to understand the current significance of this... I think... can be explained by intelligence or integrity. Some don't have the intellect to appreciate what this chart signifies. The others... I just don't understand their approach.

I will be happy to meet you at the beach area... I doubt you are as much a dick in real life as you are here. I will buy the first round of Guinness or coffee.

complete bullshit... that is your problem you think anyone pushing for science and data must be pro Trump. so you reflexively argue against that person because you have dangerous levels of TDS. I despise what Trump is doing right now. He is failing enormously right now. I have blamed...

Finally... I am making the argument against continued shut downs without science and data. The past is the past. We need to learn from it... but I don't really care what we should have done. But I am seeing morons like our Governor in CA reimposing lockdowns on business and beaches. What I...

All you do is make spurious distinctions or distinctions without a difference. focus on the issue here. All I ask is for doomers is to produce data and science supporting the lockdown of low risk groups. Why can't you all do that? 2. Trumps overtones? That is a good one. if you can't admit...

what a liar you are. The model implied no such thing. I already told you that. Your argument is absurd and completely misses the point. Why can't you understand that by picking off "low hanging fruit" early and immunizing them or killing them... the virus will quickly have a more difficult...

you are a moron....bugen wrongen; First of all you and now your boy nine_morons have cited countries who did not shut down as being the proper model. (thanks for confirming my arguments with your examples) You are the prove moron on this subject. Taiwan closed the borders...early. Something...

Why do you lie so fucking much after I just presented a study and corrected you. The study explained that per their model natural herd immunity comes about at lower levels because the virus does not infect people at random. Do you understand the significance of that statement? Do you see how...

I can't believe you all keep citing countries like Taiwan to support your side. Taiwan is perfect proof we don't need lockdowns. Their model was an even stronger version of the position than I take. 1. I just read again that Taiwan never shutdown businesses or imposed blanket lockdowns but...

Luckily for our society the tide is turning on the low info / low thinking doomer propaganda pushers... I have highlighted the important parts... note... From the Wall Street Journal. Herd Immunity May Be Closer Than You Think...

So are you or the author implying they should have been closer to herd immunity even though they locked down? I don't understand that argument at all. And if anything the data is consistent with the possibility of natural herd immunity because the harder hit cities had more antibodies. 1...

There no point talking about deaths which happened in old folks homes before the shutdown of old folks homes. Those numbers were large and caused many countries into panic blanket shut downs... lets talk about the models put in place after the initial deaths.... Lets look at how the countries...

GWB did you see the chart in Tsing's post above and below. How could you still be lying about deaths spiking in the last 5 weeks? Are you insane? nuts? deranged or pathological? That chart of daily deaths in Sweden has be going down since mid April. . The 7 day moving average of daily...

anyone can see you have no science or data to support the idea that locking down the low risk did any good... so you are making a new spurious side argument. However, I do give you kudos... for doing what the paid whore lawyers do. When a lawyer doesn't have have the facts or the law on their...

this is why I keep asking for science and data... your argument is independent of letting the low risk out. you don't need material on a massive scale if the low risk group is rarely being hospitalized or dying from Covid. Sweden shows since mid april lockdown does not create better...

Using de Prado' model we have been making that argument for months. How long you shutdown would depend on the virus and the data . All the data we had showed that hospitals outside of NY and a 3 or 4 other cities were empty. And all the data showed this virus preyed upon the elder and those...

Bugen is wrong again... do you understand facts and data... do you understand these charts... which I have presented many times... look at the curves as they are aligned from the first date of deaths... many countries made mistakes early on and did eventually shutdown their old folks homes...

Your chart is the chart which destroys the idea that low risk groups had to be locked down.

I know that... I was replying to bugenwrongen... who never wants to discuss the current science and data but dwell on mistakes made in the beginning in many countries.

is that what NY did is that what NJ and CT did is that what the US did... Once they locked down the old folks home and let the low risk out. Their model started working. ..