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Another propaganda piece from GWB... so... I will remind him that antibodies are only part of the immune response. Killer T-cells can save us Scientists are learning more about the antibody responses to the virus. Most people who are exposed to the virus and experience symptoms produce...

So when Sweden's Anders Tegnall said the WHO took the rise in cases out of context... because it was accompanied by a lot more testing, he had data to back up the statement? 2. That is also a stunning stat / graph Deaths are down... cases are (in reality) down... How can that be? The...

No binary thinking moron... You keep bringing Canada into this... since you are obsessed with injecting Canada into it and saying how great Canada is... I pointed out Sweden and Canada are currently experiencing about the same results on the daily death chart. (yeah we know Sweden started...

I'd estimate 95 percent of the articles in the last 3 days about Spain and its low antibody count implied or said... "therefore herd immunity is unlikely." Yet, the scientists being quoted must be aware of our T cell response... Not even mentioning them in the articles... really manifests the...

You said Toronto not Canada. What kind of moron on are you? Now stop injecting your abject stupidity into threads.

you are bat shit crazy... nine_ender. seriously.. I just did a search. This is the last of my 2 posts on this subject where I typed the word Toronto... on June 22... I wrote...

I believe we are allowed to have practice as long as the kids remain 6 feet apart. No games... no scrimmages. Its better than nothing but being that kids have not died from covid in San Diego... I think the kids should be able to compete... if they wish. if the stats change... I might change...

Moms everywhere are talking about that. I was just dosed with those fears last week at soccer practice. I said was I happy that our kids were not wearing masks and sucking in fibers and bacteria and that I was a happy the school board might not require masks in the fall. I broke the damn...

One problem is the data. I don't know if all the new cases we are having include retests and antibody tests... Not from the data I see... But.. CA which was the model of lockdown early and hard... is looking to be on the verge of bad outcomes.... Cases are accelerating... 7 day average of...

We may know sooner if the countries opening up right now start having spikes in bad outcomes including deaths. The 50% shutdown / re open /shutdown again model is the model with the worst potential outcomes because we are not extinguishing the virus and yet we are interfering with our potential...

you are the delusional one. Shutting down low risk groups may not even be saving deaths overall. It may be causing non covid deaths in the short run... and not saving any covid deaths in the long run. this graph is not magical... it just seems that way to you because your mind can't grasp...

you are just making shit up... no data.. no science.... no charts... no graphs.. you are the one who is not thinking. == everything you offered was the fear that was projected... but countered by what happened in Sweden once the old folks homes were locked down. in the graph below the red...

that maybe a problem... I have heard of other worries ID docs have. (I hear them 2nd hand from doctors ) but it does not change the fact that our shit shutdown has achieved nothing in terms of stopping the virus. as I just said on another thread... Fauci told us we needed a 97 percent...

Exactly right... Our shutdown was designed to shift the virus exposure out for a few months. It was never designed to extinguish the virus. Morons in the press and ET were touting exit strategies which included around goals which could never be achieved with what Fauci recently called a 50...

this is where the science is... right now... if that paper passes muster. -- Lets say 30 percent in a community have T cell immunity. Another 5 to 10 percent in the community have antibody immunity... Per some models that population may be on the verge of achieving herd immunity. (remember...

After telling us we can't be shut down forever a few weeks ago... Last week Clown Fauci told shutdown was never good enough... https://www.breitbart.com/clips/202...s-because-only-50-of-the-country-locked-down/ Thursday during a radio interview with the BBC, National Institute of Allergy and...

CA was ranked the 3rd most restrictive lockdown... https://timesofsandiego.com/politics/2020/06/23/ranking-the-coronavirus-lockdown-california-is-3rd-most-restrictive-state/ Yet the Governor is imposing some lockdown measures again in many counties...

https://news.yahoo.com/panic-buying-returns-melbourne-braces-lengthy-lockdown-032146627.html Panic-buying returns as Melbourne braces for lengthy lockdown Shoppers in Australia's second-biggest city stripped supermarket shelves Wednesday as millions in Melbourne prepared for a return to virus...

you are fucking nuts GWB with your bullshit about herd immunity being a myth. As some of us said many weeks ago... its not just about antibodies... there are other immune responses to consider.... Do you understand what it could mean that 30 percent of blood donors had Covid 19 T cells in...

We already covered this same study. What a surprise... a shut down country has low levels of antibodies. duh... the author was obviously not addressing the recent studies showing that many fight the virus with T cells and that natural herd immunity can be arrived at with much lower levels of...