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You guys have any downside target for crude.... Lotta supply I hear coming up in the reports...I'm gonna slowly start to fade downside at some point

you can do that.... but in my experience its best not to roll from one position to the next, psychologically its better just to go flat and reassess..

your basically calling a bottom or at least he pinnical of fear to close the long put position to make the most out of it .

CL bouncing off your line Mav..

pick a strike you calculate your instriment will drift to, and put on a calender spread at that strike.. and figure on the premium you pay is your stop loss.. with a vxx like instriment thats a limited risk play using a calender.. same as a short delta fly.. there is alot to consider with any...

Does anything make sense?

i don't know what i'm talking about.. but you took way to much directional risk up front.. but you obviously know that.. i'm sure your not looking to hear from me specifically haha.. but whatever.. better to trade flys instead of single's

does anyone here spread in cattle?

Thanks.... That book looking inviting... I don't like any books that sound like "fortune building" or "income condors" sounds so spammy... I can't waste my time with that stuff...

you can't even build a chart with SB futures.. its rather illiquid no?

smart guy..

no doubt how many people follow this thread now haha

sugar carrys over.. no intercrop risk.. interesting deal.. one of the few softs that doesn't have crop risk

not looking to trade stock pairs.. i'm already trading interdelivery

This would work in a world where volatility remained constant... IMO you need to start back reading more about options....

thanks guys.. i just got this first book in the mail.. http://www.amazon.com/Futures-Spread-Trading-Complete-Guide/dp/0934380481 i'll let you know how it goes/

i thought you said sell strangles.. my bad.. .. i've never tried gamma scalping but i imagine its a pretty saturated market...

with options your inheretly trading distrobution as well.. just because you sell high iv doesn't mean you won't lose.. the trend isn't your friend in that case.. you could sell a strangle it could go slowly in one direction and the variance could be low but still you can lose.. or you can...

my experience is earnings is random ... selling strangles isn't a good idea at all... and the whole 90 percent of options expiring worthless is how much your missing the point... pick up a book or five.. euan sinclair.. hull.. read them..

imo its better to not just "sell" options in some routine strategy.. Options enable many expressions.. don't get fixated on one..