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i wish it only took 100 times for me to understand something.. haha..

what "you" call medium risk... what juice are you selling? atm otm?

yeah its had a good run to..

thats what i meant.. i was askin about the cost of carry in the UNL.. i'm not sure about it.. plus its had a good run up.. i'll revisit on a retrace..

you don't have to tell us you wanna do it in Java.. thats obvious.. haha

it does or Ninja trader wouldn't work .. its C# http://ibcsharp.codeplex.com/

this guy is paper trading..

oh and i'm just talking out my ass.. i'm new to programming.. but i listen to what people say.. . look at this tread.. http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=262154

comical haha

just by your handle it sounds like your native language is java.. most would argue C# ... although i'm not a fan of windows.. even though i use it..

unles theres a longer term tracking etf.. you can short , then thats a different trade.. is the roll cost significant in UNL?

these are definitly term structure plays as well as directional plays.. i'm sure the closer you get to the front the more your trade correlates with direction of the underlying..

ahh maybe theres a smaller version of this style bull spread..

ahh i haven't used NT in a while as now i'm with Amibroker.. nice thanks..

to much margin for me...

damn i'll figure out how to get a quote on that in IB hahaa

wow.. i've traded some futures spreads.. but i've never heard of that before.. every contract in a year long.. against every contract in the following short.. i guess that takes alot of the kinks in the curve out, and your trading the constant average of one years contracts against another...

are you talking options strips.. or futures calenders? what are strips in this respect?

i always wondered.. cause i've been a bull since the price was two.. but such a noob i didn't know where to derive exposure.. how do you guys get long term exposure to natgas?

i don't follow his journal... but i know who your talking about..