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No..... Its more like just covering naked puts with a higher ratio of further otm put purchases.. You get less of a credit.... But if the underlying completely tanks you aren't holding the bag.... If it goes down moderately you can dump the long premium for profit and take the naked risk...

right.. +1 on that..

so how do you find the best way to see the switch from trend/mean or vice versa..

thats not true at all... i know of people that buy deep otm in higher ratio then the puts they sold closer to the money.. ... theres alot of ways to look at a backspread.. your basically expression that the value of the deep otm is less expensive relative to the Atm strikes.. increasing...

i've arrived a the same points many times.. tough..

i find you learn things you never forget doing things people tell you not to.. haha

There are futures on typical energy spreads

Merc?

What kind of capital does it take to trade these spreads

Go to eqs journal thread...ask there

i wish i knew how to get creative in an account with such restrictions.. its kind of werid to me to think that customers quickly get lead into thinking CCs are less risky.. i thought the same thing.. just because its "covered" when selling a put has the exact same risk profile except you...

what its backwards?

exactly what are you doing with six legs?

+1 i wanna trade the crack.. am i reading this right.. is there futures directly on crack spreads... ? https://www.theice.com/productguide/ProductSpec.shtml;jsessionid=74658816D5F21B06390B7B0CF6CAC34B?specId=231...

i've thought about this at times.. selling calls as a proxy for selling volatility.. its soooo like werid because short vol = long equities in general.. and most typically selling vol leans more naturally towards selling puts.. because equities go down vol goes up.. "typically" ... it just...

who cares about them... i say the more haters the better.. let them think about you all of their day! haha.. post those dirty trade station pictures.. that shit is a mess.. but hey you should see mine!

thats typically called a ladder , and a ratio write, and or a ratio backspread.. http://www.theoptionsguide.com/call-backspread.aspx http://www.theoptionsguide.com/long-put-ladder.aspx

xmas trees?

there are ways to make money.. people are lazy and not creative enough.. you know its like that example with random walkers speaking of a hundred dollar bill lying out where it can be found.. people expect the money to come hit them in the face..

Let's see... Show us pics