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Oh...pooh, pooh. Only those throwing those fake, large orders are the cheaters. Here's one: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-07-30/sarao-said-to-seek-bail-again-3-months-after-flash-crash-arrest

http://www.elitetrader.com/et/index.php?threads/chinas-carl-icahn-arrested-for-stock-fraud.295584/

Many, many real estate scams highlighted on "American Greed". The complexity of these "deals" makes them ripe for fraud.

Interesting. That means they actually get all of the trader's source code as well. Unless there was a royalty involved, this isn't such a great deal IMHO.

I absolutely agree with this.

Wow, what a move down. I'd say we should be seeing some short-covering soon.

This is great as long as these "custom" solutions are supported by knowledgeable techies.

And there you have it.

Wow ! I wonder if IB will provide a list of firms that applied and were qualified ???

Exactly my experience as well. Sterling is really popular with the prop firms, but their auto-trading API is over 5 years old and is not really supported !!!

Good luck with this one....I've been looking for YEARS to find a prop firm with a decent auto-trading platform. I don't believe IB will even accept prop firms....

The more important statement was the one about separating the patterns caused by random price action from "real" supply and demand..

This should be easy to backtest, no ? Using market profile for support and resistance levels or pivot points ?

Where did that blurb on time-frame scaling come from ?

J Smith - where are you getting all of this information that you have posted throughout this thread ?

Look, if there were not patterns in the market, people like Exactly...which is why guys like Steven Schonfeld and Michael Botlo have studied price action for years and now have a distinct edge with their trading algorithms. Dummies like us can't figure it out.....it all "looks" to be random...

And of course, you've proven this, right ?

re: "Sarao's team are looking to block extradition on the grounds that the U.S. charges would not be offences under English law, and if they are, that he should be tried in Britain. " IMHO I think this is a weak defense as he was operating on American exchanges....and he was a MEMBER of the...

Maybe he and Nav should join forces and scadaddle together to Russia ;)

Yeah Pek, I hear you and he did make some mistakes. I don't think all 5 of your claims are true...especially #3 and #4. The original bail would have required him to keep $5 million under his mattress..... not practical. And Nav did have his money in more than one place....and he even had a...