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But data out of China today is constructive for copper....up 4 pennies on the CME. You just can't put-down China...it keeps bouncing back !

Surf - Happy New Year. I know Copper is a sore subject (aka Farmer !), but check out this marketwatch article.....it's all about China. I knew that ! I wonder if Farmer is short (again) ? http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetel...hina-goes-bust/...

Copper again being highlighted in an article on Marketwatch: http://blogs.marketwatch.com/thetell/2013/01/09/eight-smart-trades-if-china-goes-bust/

Volume for the March copper contract is thru the roof today. Was up 3 pennies, now up only 1.

http://www.futuresmag.com/2013/01/08/are-bullish-copper-statistics-misleading?eNL=50ec4cf9ca9f801c42000225&ref=hp&utm_source=DailyMarketFocus&utm_medium=eNL&utm_campaign=FUT_eNL&_LID=103722366 Great, great article with excellent analysis. I love the quip: "It is hard to justify copper at...

Alcoa's positive announcement has had no effect on CME Copper futures. Interesting. Could be a case of "can't fool the markets"....i.e. it doesn't believe the bullish case for aluminum.

Look, this rate stuff is hard to discern. Rates will likely go up very gradually at first. However, if they start to accelerate, then money will come out of equities and commodities in a risk-off move. Gold, silver, and copper will decline in a big way. I'm not saying this is going to...

yes, but IN THIS ECONOMY, higher interest rates indicate "no more fed". Big difference from earlier "economies"...that were market-driven.

CNBC and MarketWatch are not the same ! There are some good articles on Marketwatch....and that was excellent technical analysis with a bit of fundamental analysis as well. To be a good trader, I think you need both. Point is: copper could go back to $4....incredible as that seems.

Copper making the MarketWatch headlines today. http://www.marketwatch.com/story/is-dr-copper-about-to-make-a-house-call-2013-01-07?link=mw_home_kiosk Heck, I wasn't aware there was an ETN (JJC). So there's an alternative to the futures.

Metal stocks fell broadly across Asia on Monday, with Kobe Steel Ltd. and others lower by 1%. The losses came ahead of key earnings for the sector, with aluminum major Alcoa Inc. set to kick off the traditional opening of U.S. reporting season Tuesday. Prices for gold and other metals...

Yep....but I'd love to discuss either side of the trade. I can't see the picture for world economic growth at this stage. That makes a lot of commodities over-priced IMHO. Copper just happens to be one of them. Oil is another !

Not really, all you need to do is catch the trend. Ask Ed Seykota and Larry Williams ! Problem is: few good trends to catch today with these cross-currents. And never forget, with commodities, if you start going "in the money", you just keep buying more contracts. 10 cars of copper = $2500 per...

This is really something...all of these "cross-currents". Guess right...and you're rich; and vise-versa :( I still must go with the short-copper idea....with a weak Europe and slowing China as the main reasons. Also, I don't think there will be much demand from housing in the USA after this...

Wait - doesn't that imply higher interest rates ? Higher rates = more attractive currency, no ? Gold and silver just hate competing assets that pay-out interest or dividends.

Copper is the strong player today...down only 2.5 cents. Whew, Gold and Silver taking it on the chin. With the Fed warning, I think the precious metals play is over.

Remember the lyrics from that old rock song ? "we're going down, down, down...." http://www.marketwatch.com/story/gold-silver-futures-tumble-after-fed-minutes-2013-01-03?link=MW_story_latest_news Ominous.

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-says-its-running-out-of-bullets-2013-01-03?dist=countdown Copper, Gold, Silver...all selling off on the news the Fed is running out of ammo. Look out belooooooowwwwwww.

Terry, that's going a bit too far IMHO. What happens when interest rates start to go up ? Money is going to flow out of riskier assets (commodities, equities). Yeah, I know, I know...the Fed is keeping rates low. But they'll have to change their policy when conditions change. Guessing the...

Copper back near that 3.70-3.80 zone-to-short. I think all metals are overpriced at this point. But so far, they've refused to tank.