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The full text of the study can be found here: http://circ.ahajournals.org/cgi/content/full/121/10/1200 While not taking away from the point in question here, its worth pointing out that the "low fat" diet that produced similar results to the low carb diet was not at all the same whole food...

Me thinks it clear the pro fat and protein crowd have run dry of substantive arguments.

Why do you keep citing Denise Minger as a refutation of the China Study? Is it that likely that an amateur blogger, with no academic training in the subject matter would, along with WPF, be the only ones to uncover the fact that the raw data actually disproves the Cornell China project...

I found some interesting facts below about the AGE boogeyman you so fear. Doesn't look like its the plant foods which are killing you with AGEs. AGE Amounts In Food (per serving) Starchy vegetables Corn, 20 Sweet potato, roasted, 72 White potato, boiled, 17 White potato...

Your correct. We have no argument. First, you questioned even the existence of vegan bodybuilders, then whether they compete, now the level of competition and if they weigh more than 130 pounds. OK, yeah really solid reasoning.... Keep consuming animal products since clearly all those guys...

So your standard of proof has gone from 'any' to 'top half of a competition'? Why do you find this so hard to believe? As has been stated human protein requirements are generally overestimated and there are no missing nutrients in plants. Nonetheless, despite vegans being less than 1% of the...

Just a quick google and I find many vegan competitive body builders. http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_avi http://www.veganbodybuilding.com/?page=bio_avi and, even a 61 year old raw vegan bodybuilder: http://rawveganwarrior.com/?p=328

So Atticus, assuming the information you link to is applicable to the general population, it doesn't effect the general advise of the whole plant food doctors. They are all advising to eat only whole plant foods with no added fats of any kind. Dr. McDougall in particular is adamant about the...

Maybe you just didn't see it? NoDoji's first link references 7 clinical studies on vegan diets reversing heart disease and the post you are quoting contains at least 5 studies on the same topic. The data is pretty striking, should you chose to read it.

As NoDoji said, there are problems with the critics credibility. Minger, the raw foods lady and amateur scientist, claims that eating vegan made her anorexic and mentally ill. Taubs has a key piece of data wrong. Americans did not cut the amount of fat they consumed over the last 40 years...

The whole story just smells. I hadn't honed in on the helicopter angle but the killing OBL part devolving from from a firefight with a human shield to assassinating him unarmed in his pajamas and dumping the body in the ocean, was just bizarre.

I have eaten this way too, since you enlightened the now defunct ET real time chat by turning us onto The China Study. Wasn't overweight, or sick, but I lost weight, improved clarity, energy and overall health. Rarely even catch so much as a cold in the last 3 years despite having a young child...

As a further antidote to the liberal hypocrisy, here is an example of a proper left wing critique by Noam Chomsky: "It’s increasingly clear that the operation was a planned assassination, multiply violating elementary norms of international law. There appears to have been no attempt to...

Right or left, this is an awesome post of a strangely underrepresented view So true. Saddam Hussain, Nazis and Serberbian war criminals got trials. Why do we applaud when our president orders the assassination of proclaimed enemies with zero due process? Shouldn't we be appalled and enraged at...

Yes, out of hand war criminal. In addition to OP's damming list, this last weekends killing spree doesn't seem remotely legal. Is it proper for the US president to be ordering a hit on someone with zero judicial process and then proudly proclaiming that justice was done?

Yep, perfectly summed!

Hey there Optional :), yeah it has. Yes, true politicians of all stripes will continue to sell out to big tobacco even as they fuel hysterias about first, second and even third hand smoke. A number of anti-tobacco activists were angry with Obama for signing the "Marlboro Monopoly Act"/...

In next years surgeon general's report, smoking will be declared to be more dangerous than radiation, and people will believe it.

I agree. He has not changed course in any meaningful way from the Bush administration. Police state abuses, war crimes, and rampant selling out to special interests continue. The enraged disappointment is widespread.

The only possible upside to the magnitude of this disaster is possibility that the root causes will be examined. The warp created is so profound that we have outlaw oil corporations just about regulating themselves under 2 consecutive administrations, setting energy policy, and now controlling...