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So where have most guys gone to now? The stoxx? It's a real shame that the bund has gone so thin, even 12 months ago it was so much thicker than it is now, I used to read the depth on it but now it's just so insanely thin and choppy, what have you guys gone to mostly?

So you're all giving him advice on what he should do about it, but none of you have actually done it yourself. Go figure. I have done it, best thing I ever did. You should do it. Make sure you record everything, try everything and make as many trades as you can(if you're on sim) to gain as...