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    Iterative Refinement

    It is a tape indeed. Marked thin black on the attached, this tape is created using two bars: 1250 [close of] and 1255 [close of]. This tape grows into a traverse from pt1 to pt2 of future channel with slope and width similar to those of previous up channel. The start of the sequence is an...
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    Iterative Refinement

    Sorry, this is embarrassing. I am going to start drawing trend lines manually. Obviously, since there is no channel, the price does not BO on increased volume and there is no sequence. Instead we have pt2 to pt3 traverse. Thank you, Spydertrader. I appreciate your patience.
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    Iterative Refinement

    The sequences is the area where I find myself still wandering off the reservation quite often. Today after an FTT on 1340 ES bar [close of] is an example. I am trying to figure out the logic behind determining when the sequence fails. After an FTT price broke out of the down channel on...
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    Iterative Refinement

    :) Actually it was BO of the pennant 1110. I don't have the pennant on any of my 2 data providers.
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    Iterative Refinement

    :) I suspect the why was meant to elicit the analysis
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    Iterative Refinement

    Obviously my YM chart looks a bit different due to data provider
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    Iterative Refinement

    YM bars: 1050 [close of] price moved in dominant direction on increased volume = continuation 1054 [close of] price moved in dominant direction on increased volume = continuation 1100 [close of] price moved in dominant direction on increased volume = continuation ( the fact that it also moved...
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    Iterative Refinement

    Sorry, I totally missed the differences in applying the logic of lateral movement in describing how price moved vs. determining continuation/change bar to bar. In our case the data set is sufficient : 1100 - price moved in dominant direction on decreased volume = change 1105 - IBGS = change...
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    Iterative Refinement

    On my chart 11:00 through 11:10 [close of] bars all close within the previous bar range, indicating lateral movement = continuation. I am missing something fundamental:confused:
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    Iterative Refinement

    YM: 10:50 - increasing red = continuation 10:54 - increasing red = continuation 11:00 - SYM FBO = continuation (because of FBO direction) 11:04 - IBGS = change 11:10 - lateral movement = continuation Hold short
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    Iterative Refinement

    While the charts tell me that pt2 to pt3 on increased non dominant volume is possible, this is not what we expect from the sequence of dominos after an FTT. And WMCN is anything but increased non dominant volume. Is this accurately describes the meaning of this response...
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    Iterative Refinement

    In my humble opinion the answer to the wholes issue of why pt3 never came after 1545 [close of] bar and whether or not increasing black volume eliminates the possibility of pt3 down, lies with YM. 1546 [close of] exits down channel on increasing black volume after an FTT. Therefore YM dominant...
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    Iterative Refinement

    "Three ways exist for Price to move from Point Two to Point Three" - was not, I think. It was given as a quiz however.
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    Iterative Refinement

    Sorry, I missed that chubby tape. :)
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    Iterative Refinement

    I don't follow. 1540 [close of] is a VE of the down channel?
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    Iterative Refinement

    YM: 1326 [close of] is up on increasing volume = the trend is up 1328 [close of] as you noted is IBGS, so the trend changed obviously, it is down now. 1330 [close of] forms SYM, continuation of the downtrend that started with IBGS That is why 1332 [close of] goes down on increased red. And...
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    Iterative Refinement

    Got it. Thank you very much.
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    Iterative Refinement

    Spydertrader, if you'd be so kind. Following the bi9foot question as to what goes on inside formations: a. For a beginner all decisions take place at the end of bar. b. No decisions are made while price is inside formation "For a beginner, as long as Price resides inside a formation you...
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    Iterative Refinement

    If price is moving from pt2 to pt3 we expect anything but the increased black Edit: I posted before I saw Spydertrader's answer to dkm:)
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    Iterative Refinement

    :D Let's pretend I am back in May of '07, when the formations have not been discovered yet:D , and the admirable quality of their BO's (which mean not much unless followed by more increasing volume on the next bar for a trend to change) is still not in our tool set. And I thought this red bar...
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