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I got to tour the floor last summer. A friend hooked it up through a connection. I got to hang out with a specialist for about 20 mins just asking questions. At the time they really didn't have many details on the hybrid system, but it didn't seem like anyone was very excited about it. There...

Maybe stop to think that we "defenders" make a good living off these guys. Where there are people controlling things, there are mistakes and innefficiences...and at least one of those two things must be present for most strategies to work. You guys really want to trade with black boxes all day?

This guy will be one of the greatest scams in ET history. He's probably getting 20 pm's a day from noob's who don't realize that will a 20 min delay a monkey can make the greatest calls in the world. Somehow he trades his own acct, is a teacher, papertrades ES for huge profits, all while...

What you need is a good broker that will provide it free. I know Assent and I think Bright do this. Assent (Hammer) actually gives you a screener that can filter/sort the data which is pretty cool.

You posted this late in the day on Thursday near market lows. Immediately afterwards the market surged about 3 points, or $45,000 against you. Are you telling us you held the trade overnight? Even if you did, you only had a small opportunity to cover around the lows again the next morning...

Yes...clearly. Sorry I couldn't resist. You can have your thread back now.

I've traded the same profitble automated system for 4+ years. No TA, no Arb...solely price action (no historical data). Not to mention another less profitable system that also only uses price action. It could all be done without charts.

Posting on a message board that you paper traded $40,000 in 2 days means nothing to anybody here...especially using delayed quotes. I'm not trying to be mean, but it's laughable.

Totally realistic. Where do I sign?

Deeman's posts were in fact some of the best posts ever on ET imo.

Doubtful...how often do you see 20-100k sitting on ECN's to be cleared? I think the new rules will affect daytraders more than the funds with blocks. There are already LRP's within .25-.5 of the inside price and I hardly see them used.

They are probably delayed trades being put through late. That's one problem using stops on Nasdaq stocks.

Liquidity can kill volatility too...be careful what you wish for.

I would be OK with any extension.

Funny you say that. I traded afterhours all the time in '98 when it was actually worth it. Stocks gapped 5-10-20 points on news halts all the time...now you are all fighting for 50 cents. BTW count me in for a west coast trader who's for the 2 hour extension. More time to trade = more time...

I've been using these colors for years...

If AB Watley is on that list then it's worthless.

Congrats to DT and Mike Kestler...both of these guys trade at higher levels than I can currently, and most of you guys would benefit from paying a grand to see how they do it. Mike K is on of the few guys who has that special factor that takes trading to a new level. Basically it's intuition...

I think you have the wrong idea of how this strategy works. It's not based on ES or any futures/index although having a built in futures % movement isn't a bad idea in case of a large spike. Book value, P/E etc are not of consideration. Enveloping is just setting a buy and a sell a certain...

Jim that's a great link...thanks for the info.