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Sorry if I misunderstand, but it seems these two statements are contrary. Perhaps you believe, as I once did, that tick charts are too detailed. I think one can find that that same price movements found in daily and intraday charts, along with the accompanying volume, can be found in tick charts.

True. That's why I have a Buy and Sell volume frame on my constant tick chart. But even then a big bar could be a large number of small trades. That can be clarified in T&S if one wants. But given the attempts of MM's to remain flat, I really can't give that much weight to such volume...

One problem for some traders with volume in index futures is that some vendors and brokers mix in rollover volume with auction volume, which, of course, is wrong and makes accurate analysis impossible.

What, if any, has been your experience with volume in constant range, constant tick or price change charts?

Nah, didn't put it in italics. I grew up in the time and place where manipulation was the name of the game. If you couldn't read charts, and the volume therein, you were out of the game in no time! Volume was available in time based charts only. There were no constant volume, constant range or...

Right! Now I remember. Thanks.

Yes, and I think you will find a significant difference in how volume visibly varies among time based, constant range, constant tick etc. charts. What stands out on one may be flat on another.

That can be true for the index. But it would be a very rare exception for that to be true for index futures. Volume can't be used exclusively, as you said. You often use K.I.S.S. I think I once knew what that stood for. Would you please refresh my memory?

Would like to hear why, if you have a second.

Right, but I just mentioned stocks for the sake of it. More strongly than I said in my first post, the climatic volume in index futures is extremely valuable. But again, I'm talking about the Nikkei. However, as I remember, years ago when I examined ES, I found that the same held true.

1. Without a doubt. The importance of volume in making a proper analysis goes all the way back to The Dow Theory. In the case of manipulated stocks, it is of utmost importance. 2. No, no, and again,no!! 3.See no.2

While I find climatic volume to be of use in analysis, I imagine it's the MM's making up the majority of the volume and attempting to remain flat that causes the volume to be too constant and of less value in analysis than say in stocks. I'm speaking of that in the Nikkei.

. I just found out that a sponsor has a limited amount of time to delete his thread. After that he needs to ask for support to do so.

I think someone mentioned somewhere that sponsors do have the privilege to delete. In the case in question, it was to his advantage to delete all of his threads as he was trapped like a rat in a corner.

If it hasn't changed, we can't delete our threads, only our posts. I can see Baron's point in allowing sponsors to delete their threads. They're paying to sell on ET, and if trolls take over their thread, they'd want to delete or revise it. But in the case of you know who, his deletions were...

Trying to sense the market's direction makes no cents!! Instead, ask the market, and listen to what it's telling you. But don't hear what it ain't sayin'!!

Yep!! And if they can't, the value of the product is in doubt, or they need a course in salesmanship, or both in the case of you know who!!

True, but there's always more and better!

That's what's left for you to learn!!　I've been at this for over 40 years, and still do find new tactics etc. , just as chess players find new moves. That's not to say that you have to. But if you eat this stuff up, you'll look!

How many years are necessary to consider yourself a successful trader? More than how many years, it's When you can identify the reasons for your losses. When you don't look at the prices on the menu. When you have more followers on ET than the number you follow. When you feel you don't have to...